Yeah so even tho Ive only been into this community for like some months Ive already heard this over and over again basicly: RSD will fuck you up. I still checked out their forum and videos and soon enough I got this cult feeling too. However, this one thing really convinced me that RSD are EXTREMELY manipulative. Basicly its a blog created by some guys who show you some of the cult tactics rsd use and also alot of other stuff. I stumbled upon it when searching for some random seduction stuff on the net.

You can check it out at: http://truthofrsd.dinstudio.com/diary_1_2.html

I didn't read that link, but I've heard about the rsd 'cult' forever. I think most of that comes from the image they got in the neil strauss book.
Personally, the rsd stuff helped me more than anything else I ever read or listened to. Foundations was huge for me a few months ago. And 'the physical game'. And they easily have the best field-reports section I've ever seen. I agree though, that the forum is filled with Tyler dick-riders. But that's true of any game site. Go to the roosh forum and you'll see plenty of guys using roosh's brand of thinking. Like attracts like in these things I guess.

Read the link, but it loses a lot of credibility when you see the litany of grammatical and spelling errors, as well as, uh, dramatic assertions.

Quote:Remember, we are not the enemy, basicly we're the rescue squad trying to save you from the maniacs brainwashing you into suicide bombing.

This made me lol.

Yeah I noticed the grammatical errors too. But they still make some good points and show interesting stuff

It’s “to each his own” when it comes to choosing people to look up to. Let’s face it; everyone is trying to sell you something by using marketing and psychology. When you walk into store, even a bottle of water is marketed to a specific target market. Some people may have success with one instructor or company while another person may have success with someone else. I know some people who are obsessed with hypnosis or incantations and there are others like myself where it seems to not help. I guess if you are successful with it, keep doing it.

(10-02-2011 02:40 AM)Palf Wrote:  RSD will fuck you up. I still checked out their forum and videos and soon enough I got this cult feeling too.

Each RSD instructor has the persona of a character and it’s like students get attached to these characters. I don’t necessarily have a problem with companies doing these things as long as they get their students great results. There will be pros and cons of any instructor or company you choose, because it is impossible to know everyone’s specific challenges or anxieties. One thing from RSD that really screwed me up for awhile was the idea of “state”. Rather than just talking to women I felt I needed to be in state to even approach, but I don’t rely on it at all anymore. Maybe the next morning I will realize that I was in a really great state the night before, but it is not in my head anymore. Mark's article, "State is Overrated" goes into great detail on this if it's hurting you as well. I think it is up to the individual to take in any information with a grain of salt and tailor it to their personal needs.

The problem with rsd is that they have MANY really really bad belief system that you dont realize how unhealthy it is until you realize rsd is bullshit.

I dont have time to point out the entire blueprint decoded but i'll point out to one:

In BP decoded, tyler claim that if a girl in a presence of value, her retina activation system will immediately hone into it and ignore her bf. ALL natural fear things of value. What a stupid fucking belief system. The thing is, value comes in many form, including comfort and how much emotional connect she had build with you over the years. Not all women are sluts who will immediately chase things that have higher perceive value as soon as they notice it.

Tyler claims as long as you're in state, you are invincible and can ditch calibration. Being in state is nice, sure, everyone likes to be around a happy person, but it's actually not THAT important. Sometime, being completely relax and in a sexual state is good enough to get some girls. Guys constantly think they must be in state to impress the girl have a VERY VERY NEEDY intention and it fucks up their game.

99 percent of girls jeffy bangs are fucking fat and ugly, if most of us willing to put in the approach and lower our standard, we'll get the same amount. Yet rsd build jeffy up like he's god.

God ddamn, fucking rsd is the biggest piece of shit company in the community. I personally trust david D and even fucking ross jeffries way more than rsd.

These are the girls that rsd pulls. It actually makes perfect sense to me. Most of rsd instructor(especially brad) is pretty good looking. If you're good looking + lower your standard + low social inhibition and willing to hit on tons of chicks, you WILL get results!! But is this fucking game? ugh, no.

"Notes from RSD HotSeat in London
10/1/2011

Yes, one of our guys actually attended this one and altho he is too lazy to write a review of it, he agrees with everything the guys over at rsdnation said about it. Ugly girls, shitty game and an extremely overhyped event. Some dude decided to gather some of the comments about this event so ofcourse we decided to post it here for you guys:



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"Brad is in NY with Tyler trying to pick up a fat cunt"

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"seriosly, few times I though: damn, no surprise I'm not getting laid as much as I want. Gotta lower the bar. Some of these chicks wouldn't even pop on my radar as "HBs". No seriously everybody knows Jeff's low standards and high sex drive. It's expected we will see all kinds, shapes, ranks and sizes but what the fuck are the other dudes doing?"

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"where were the hot girls?"

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"i would be disappointed if I had not seen the tyler bit - this one was the only real bit with cute girls in. The girls Jeffy was talking to were average to low, and not who I'd want to speak to even after 2 years or approaching, let alone 10. I hate to say it, but Alex's pick up WAS POINTELSS TO WATCH. He was drunk and bumbling through, i took some points, yes, thanks Jeffy. But damn, this didn't help at a point where I was thinking "not another 7" - and his style was like a drunk guy on tiger tiger with persitence but some social calibre."

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"not videos of cute girls, but are you saying after a year of filming you didnt get a good point to show with a cute girl? As intermediates we need to see this working on cute girls"

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"As previous London reviewer also said, “This is not "advanced game" this is "I don't give a fuck and bang anything that comes my way" game.”

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"I was totally excited and attentive for this half, but left feeling bla."

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"some of them clearly lack the finesse accumulated of many years in the field... such as Alex."

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"but had this not been a decidedly average looking girl, a super nerd Berkley student whose only chances of getting laid ordinarily would be by Jeffy via an internet dating site – then his clumsy persistence would not have got him the lay."

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"Well I realised I’m as good as Jeffy, if not better than him at the online stuff. AND i fuck hotter girls. "

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"I can only give a personal critique which is my subjective experience of the seminar. So yeah, you fuck a lot of ugly girls i wouldn’t fuck"

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"While RSD is all about inner game, riffing on the vibe and self amusement - these videos demonstrate how heavily the instructors rely on canned material. We heard the same lines again and again and again..."

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"They were all in "damage control". Add to that the "number games opening" and what you have is this - open gazillion sets, then find one drunk girl that doesn't blow you away"



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So basicly a company with instructors who have been going out for ten years straight and are self proclaimed dating experts get such kind of reviews? Ugly girls? "That girl wouldnt even end up on my hb radar", "Only fat girls", "no cute girls". These are the guys claiming to hook up with LA hotties all the time, that looks doesnt matter. Yet they only manage to get ugly girls on the clips which not even community guys can find hot?"

Holy shit, I didnt see that one until now. When theres tons of COMMUNITY GUYS calling the girls ugly, u bet they are damn ugly lol

Quote:Each RSD instructor has the persona of a character and it’s like students get attached to these characters.

Really? That is awesome.
It's like a boyz band for wannabe puas

I don't know much about these guys (I heard the audios for BD and Foundations) but I can see how being subject to that kind of lifestyle coupled with non-stop raging criticism from one side and adoration from another can screw one up.

This blog is funny and kinda interesting. What about this one, this is just sooo true haha:





This is just some of the cult manipulation tactics RSD use on a daily basis, look at them and ask yourself "can I relate some of these tactics to from what Ive seen from RSD?"
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LAW 27: PLAY ON PEOPLE’S NEED TO BELIEVE TO CREATE A CULTLIKE FOLLOWING

This law assumes all humans possess the acute need to believe in something, making us innately gullible (especially in group settings). Those who exercise this law gain a tremendous amount of power and wealth through the 5 steps of cultmaking.

1. Keep It Vague; Keep It Simple. Use ambiguous and obscure words, but keep it simple or lose your credibility.

2. Emphasize the Visual and the Sensual over the Intellectual. Make an appeal to the senses, or risk losing your following over boredom.

3. Borrow the Forms of Organized Religion to Structure the Group. Great societies are characterized by order. Organize members in a hierarchical structure.

4. Disguise Your Source of Income. Live luxuriously as proof of the truth and success of your claims, but keep your methods of acquisition disguised.

5. Set Up an Us-Versus-Them Dynamic. Provide a sense of exclusivity and fabricate an ‘us against the world’ mentality.