If you've read the book, review Chapter 5, it basically means you're going to meet a higher percentage of Interested's than most guys. Respond accordingly.

(09-22-2011 09:45 PM)Palf Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 05:49 PM)Brian Wrote:  Honestly, most of your friends or people you know will say that you're hot. The only way to find out is to post your picture on hotornot.

If you're around 9.0+ then you're consider "above average". If you're 9.9 then your'e hot. Hotornot doesnt lie...it's a bunch of stranger rating you. There's no sugarcoat. and yes, the game is different for those guys who score higher.

Namely, escalate faster and lead.

Never heard from any friends Im hot, eh well maybe from some female friend, but thats about it.

Ive tried hot or not, I got 9.5

Look, if you got 9.5, then you're not that hot lol. You're considered "cute" by most girls and the only girls you dont have to put that much effort is mostly chubby girl to average girl.

9.5 in hotornot is not exactly 9.5 in real life...it's somewhere between a 7 to an 8 at most if that lol.

You still need to put in the effort to do tons of approach, still need to talk and still need to run game properly to get result. However, given the fact that a lot of pua are 8 in hotornot or under, the good news is that if you're willing to hit on tons of chicks and run game, you'll get result faster.

1) just ignore hotornot would be my advice. I mean who cares? Basically you're being rated by a bunch of people who don't know you and who you will never see in real life? How can you take that seriously?
----> like I said focus on the feedback that women have given you in real life, that says far more than a hotornot rating.

2) Once you've made the most of your looks, it's best to ignore this stuff. Simply because there is always going to be someone taller or better looking then you.

Hotornot stopped being credible like five years ago. I'd say definitely go with in-person feedback over it.

Thing is on hotornot you'll likely get more votes from guys anyway, especially gays. Better ask women in real-life about your looks.

(09-23-2011 03:20 AM)Brian Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 09:45 PM)Palf Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 05:49 PM)Brian Wrote:  Honestly, most of your friends or people you know will say that you're hot. The only way to find out is to post your picture on hotornot.

If you're around 9.0+ then you're consider "above average". If you're 9.9 then your'e hot. Hotornot doesnt lie...it's a bunch of stranger rating you. There's no sugarcoat. and yes, the game is different for those guys who score higher.

Namely, escalate faster and lead.

Never heard from any friends Im hot, eh well maybe from some female friend, but thats about it.

Ive tried hot or not, I got 9.5

Look, if you got 9.5, then you're not that hot lol. You're considered "cute" by most girls and the only girls you dont have to put that much effort is mostly chubby girl to average girl.

9.5 in hotornot is not exactly 9.5 in real life...it's somewhere between a 7 to an 8 at most if that lol.

You still need to put in the effort to do tons of approach, still need to talk and still need to run game properly to get result. However, given the fact that a lot of pua are 8 in hotornot or under, the good news is that if you're willing to hit on tons of chicks and run game, you'll get result faster.

What the fuck is this lol? Some angry dude not liking it when other people are good looking? =)

Just for the record, a time ago a solid "nine" somehow figured out my number, contacted me told me she had been checking me out at the gym, wanted to meet up at the club, at the club she told me she wanted to sleep with me, I told her "yes but only if u buy me 5 drinks" just to fuck around, well she does it, I bring her home and fuck her. This girl has since been stalking the shit out of me.

My one and only relationship with a waitress I got only cause she found me sexy, I somehow fucked it up by my insecurities tho.

While Im no Brad Pitt, Im clearly above average, this is not to brag, cause Im not getting sex cause of it, err not much anyway. But I need to learn how to game properly due to my "physical value" or whatever.

(09-23-2011 04:24 AM)Mark Wrote:  Hotornot stopped being credible like five years ago. I'd say definitely go with in-person feedback over it.

The thing about in person feed back is that it's not objective. One day, a girl can feel massive sexual tension from me and say over and over how "beautiful" i am and the next day, because i masturbate too much, the girl felt nothing and i get blown out all day.

Hotornot, girls cannot judge your personality, your sexual tension, your confident etc. They can only* purely judge your picture so you know it's completely passive attraction.

I still remember a PUA on rsd forum claim he's the most beautiful man alive and women should fall into his dick. I asked him to post his pic...after hours, he finally did. The dude base on my judgement would not score more than a 9.0 on hotornot. He's not "ugly" but his look is not good enough to get pussy alone. He still have to approach and put in the work. Once he set realistic expectation of who he is, then he'll get more result.

Another example would be this natural who's like an abercrombie and fitch male model. One look and he's easily score 9.9. A girl approach him at house party and simply told him she's only* going to go home with him out of everyone in the room.

lol, as if physicall attraction is ever objective. Perhaps you should stick to writing posts about Brazil lol .

In person feedback is far more superior. End of story. I honestly don't see why you should need to debate this....

Palf the buy me 5 drinks first.... seriously..... Maybe you should look up the word arrogance.

I'm probably in the same boat as you right now. I've had girls sing songs for me, gave me their number when I was working at a desk etc.... Hell I can go on endlessly. But you really got to drop that attitude.

Look at it from this perspective, you see a super hot girl and you get all nervous and you finally approach her. Then all of a sudden she says to you "look you better buy me 5 drinks first"? How would you feel? First, you were already intimidated and now she does that?

(09-23-2011 04:24 AM)Mark Wrote:  Hotornot stopped being credible like five years ago. I'd say definitely go with in-person feedback over it.

lol, probably when community guys started posting their pictures on it and started rating each other.

I believe I'm attractive as well (although I haven't had as many girls say it to me as you have ).

If you combine a) being direct and honest about your interest in her, b) being very sexual and escalate, while c) being "nice", respectful, understanding, a good listener, interested in her as a person, then you're basically her ideal man.

This is probably true for any guy, but the above is very effective for me. As attractive guys we can probably mess up a lot more and we can skip a few steps in the attraction process.

Btw, it sounds like you just really need to work on your self-esteem and feelings of self worth.