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Odd sticking point - the group pull
Ok, so this has come up several times. First, some background. I have nailed down a really good lifestyle for night game. I have a large two bedroom apartment with a roommate in the east village, with a great roof view, well stocked bar, and terrace. This makes it really easy to get girls home. It's also a really distinctive building so I can say "i live at the building that looks like xyz" and the girls know what I am talking about.

So, this makes it easy to get groups of girls back to my place. and "groups" is where the problem lies. Several times over the past few weeks I have had 2-4 girls come home with me. I often have one guy with me but the problem here is that I'm trying to hook up with one of them, but their friends are around. Now, often, I'm out with my roommate and he's hitting it off with a girl. The problem comes up that as soon as one girl decides she wants to go home, they all tend to want to go home.

So, how to handle these logistics?
09-09-2011 10:03 AM
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I fear the problem is inherent to nightgame.

This is one of the many reasons why I have stopped nightgame completely, and only focus on daygame, where girls are on their own.

Logistics are essential, and the more girls are involved, the more complicated it gets.

The only possible solution I see is to isolate your target from her friends BEFORE you get her to your place.
09-09-2011 06:29 PM
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RE: Odd sticking point - the group pull
This is a situation that's directly out of your control, but you can do things indirectly to affect it. To get her friends to go and have your girl stay, she's got to be the one to decide. She's got to be the one to tell them, "Hey you guys go ahead, I'm going to stay here."

The only way to reach that point is to get her sufficiently turned on and attracted enough. The current blog post is pretty relevant here.

This also may be an argument for making out in clubs... just because it gets you that further along the escalation path and raises the expectations for what's going to happen at your place. If you haven't kissed her yet, then the precedent is set that she's coming to your place to hook up with you, not necessarily have sex. But if you've already hooked up, then the precedent is set that she's coming over to have sex.

This is also another reason why I'm not a fan of the "after party" way of pulling. You get caught in a lot of these types of situations. The goal is to get rid of the friends, not keep them around, lol... I usually cut to the chase these days instead: "I like you and I want to keep hanging out. You should come back with me. Just you." Put it all out there. This saves time as well. If she's not comfortable, then you don't waste the next two hours taking her and her friends to a diner and emptying your booze stash for them when she's going to go home anyway.

And General, you're right that day game doesn't have a lot of these obnoxious factors and variables to deal with. But at the same time, the timetable for lays in day game are typically longer (1-2 dates at least), and for some of us, not as much fun. Night game, with all of it's chaos and extraneous circumstances, when it's done very well, can yield great sex with hot girls very quickly. It just takes more headaches and there are more factors involved. Day and night each have their strengths and weaknesses imo, and it's going to depend on your personality and priorities. I've always preferred night game.

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09-09-2011 06:46 PM
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RE: Odd sticking point - the group pull
Mark, thanks. That makes tons of sense.
09-10-2011 12:55 AM
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