The positive thing (for K.I.Z.) is that today's Germany is a multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society with a lot of foreigners living here (and not only Turks). If you don't get along with the German girls, it's still easy to find foreign girls who are happy to give you a chance. Especially in Berlin.

(08-20-2011 11:43 PM)General G Wrote:  unfortunately I moved away from Berlin this summer, otherwise I would have invited you to join me for a daygame session in Monbijou-Park/Lustgarten.

Cool man, thanks for the tip. Anybody know of other interesting places to check out in Berlin just for shits and giggles?

(08-22-2011 10:13 PM)k.i.z. Wrote:  

(08-20-2011 11:43 PM)General G Wrote:  unfortunately I moved away from Berlin this summer, otherwise I would have invited you to join me for a daygame session in Monbijou-Park/Lustgarten.

Cool man, thanks for the tip. Anybody know of other interesting places to check out in Berlin just for shits and giggles?

O.k. I've already told you about the top daygame place. So here come some nightlife spots. Unfortunately, I have to tell you that I dislike most of them.

If you want to get layed the easy way with mediocre girls: "Kaffee Burger", Torstrasse. This is a shithole. Girls are easy, but rather low quality. Watch your drinks! Watch your pockets!

If you like beautiful Russian "hired guns": "SSSR Club" ("CCCP") in Mitte, a small bar.

If you want to game snobbish, super-arrogant HB 7-9/10 chicks: "Neue Odessa Bar", Torstrasse. Cold approaches usually don't work there (just my personal opinion), try to get into the social circles instead.

There is an "underground bar" in Tortstrasse near the shop "Studio 54". Somebody in Roosh's forum has posted that it's difficult to get in, but in my experience it isn't. Again, HB 7-9/10. Some are really nice. Same quality, but much less arrogant than in "Neue Odessa Bar".

"Sage club" (Kreuzberg/Mitte): Lots of hard rock and lots of HB 4-7.

"Golden Gate": Small Techno Club, some really good-looking girls. But simply too loud for approaches, just my opinion.

"Cassiopeia" (near Jannowitzbruecke): Crowded club with mostly mediocre girls.

"White Trash" in Mitte - Hard Rock/Gothic Club, quality of girls ranges from 3 to 9/10. Many tourists. Many sets will hook, even with very good-looking girls.

"Kulturbrauerei" - Prenzlauer Berg. 3 venues: "Alte Kantine" - young women, mediocre quality, high bitch-shields. "Soda Club" - Jersey Shore people. I used to have prejudice against these people, but when I was there once, guys and girls were really nice. "NBI club": Gay bar, but also an HB 9 with a huge ego here and there.

Lychener Strasse, Prenzlauer Berg: Many small bars with mediocre quality girls and an awful male-female ratio. But you get in for free.

To be honest, in opposite to daygame in Berlin (which I loved) I never felt comfortable in Berlin nightlife...

Shit, where was this post a month or two ago. I was in Berlin first week of July. Although I was sick the whole time I was there, so wasn't able to go out much. I had a bit of trouble finding good places when I was there this time around, the places I knew from 2009 were either closed or I couldn't get in.

(08-21-2011 05:31 PM)General G Wrote:  The positive thing (for K.I.Z.) is that today's Germany is a multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society with a lot of foreigners living here (and not only Turks). If you don't get along with the German girls, it's still easy to find foreign girls who are happy to give you a chance. Especially in Berlin.

It's politically incorrect to say, but most of these minorities are unfortunately not really integrated in society, much less educated and successful. Same as in other western countries, maybe even more because the governmental "Multi Kulti" notion absolutely failed. Plus, you don't have this cosmopolitan atmosphere in most of the bigger German cities which you have in London, NYC, HK, etc.

GG, I haven't even heard of most of the bars you mentioned. Been to VCF, went on a Q-Dorf frenzy for a couple of weeks, was in Felix for like five minutes, E4, Weekend (but like five years ago).. can't think of any other notable ones right now.
The ones I keep hearing about are 40 Seconds, Tresor, Cookies, Watergate, Adagio, Puro and Berghain.

Cookies was packed on a Sunday when I went, and you needed a guest list to get in. Number of hot girls there though. Tresor I couldn't get in. Berghain is awesome if you can get in, but the door policy is basically a coin flip. The time I went to Watergate, it was pretty dead. Nice venue though.

Sage is closed down and part of Kit Kat now, which is a swinger/sex club.

Went to a number of bars on Torstrasse, they were cool, but dead on a Tuesday I think it was. Went to Weekend and got unlucky because it was gay night that night.

Berlin has great night life 7 nights a week, you just have to start going out and figuring out which venue is good on which night and make a couple connections.

Do you try tipping door guys when you can't get in? There is pretty much no place in LA, MIA, NY etc that I haven't been able to get in by tipping the doorman well and dressing sharp.

Strangely, Berlin may be the only city where they may not work. I know at Berghain and Tresor it doesn't. Berlin nightlife has a weird pride to it. And a lot of venues have bizarre door policies that they stick to no matter what.

(08-23-2011 10:36 PM)Extropy Wrote:  

(08-21-2011 05:31 PM)General G Wrote:  The positive thing (for K.I.Z.) is that today's Germany is a multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society with a lot of foreigners living here (and not only Turks). If you don't get along with the German girls, it's still easy to find foreign girls who are happy to give you a chance. Especially in Berlin.

It's politically incorrect to say, but most of these minorities are unfortunately not really integrated in society, much less educated and successful. Same as in other western countries, maybe even more because the governmental "Multi Kulti" notion absolutely failed. Plus, you don't have this cosmopolitan atmosphere in most of the bigger German cities which you have in London, NYC, HK, etc.

Do you know how many American, Spanish, French, Russian etc. people are living in Berlin? It is a very cosmopolitan city.

Really, if somebody is living in Berlin and has trouble to get along with German girls, there is no problem to find plenty of girls from other nations either from Europe (Western or Eastern) or from Northern America/Latin America.

(I cant say anything on the bars/clubs mentioned by KIZ because I only want to provide relyable FIRST-HAND informations, not hearsay stories.)