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"Amoging" by your friends.
Well this may be an addition over the recent Mark's post ,about the "Multi Millionaire" its a problem that appeared to me recently,and it have happened in the past occasionaly and I 'm not sure how to deal with it.
The case is that I i'm getting "funny teasing comments" by friends and they still catch me off guard.
Although some of them are not so close friends in reality,but we have hang out a little bit.One of them ,recently make it more intense, with a cover of making fun ,but it was in front of other girls,when we just formed a band to jam like he tried to win approval by making me seem inferior.
Because people usually think of me as serious person I dont want to appear like that,I just laugh ,but it seems that taking part in that game makes me loose my status,and maybe the respect of others.
Become the good boy,that "everyone" in the group makes fun of him,even if most of them are younger than me.
I know the best thing is just call them back,with an appropriate response,but I can rarely come up ,with a smart line.
And also I dont want to loose my calmness,and take it personally.
(This post was last modified: 07-25-2011 06:35 PM by Symor.)
07-25-2011 06:32 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
False friends...

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07-25-2011 07:43 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
I've experienced this somewhat with non-community friends of mine, especially if they view you as "competition." It's a fallacy because the girl is not impressed by a guy putting down his own friends. You don't need to come up with a witty response, just tell them to stop being dicks. This usually gets the job done. If they don't, don't go out and hit on girls with them.
07-26-2011 02:33 AM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
Here go my 2 cents. I don't know ANY of the specifics of your situation, but it might help. It comes from personal experience.

This is something that actually happened to me in the past. Especially the "they're younger than me" part. The situation used to cause me problems, because well, if you try to go along with the joke, you end up being THE joke. If you get pissed, it's even funnier for some of them. And if you try to ignore it, well, we all know how that one ends!

This, btw, will kill your game entirely. Not that game is the problem. You'd be amazed at how EASY is to game girls when you're with friends that actually admire you and support you instead of putting you down. So, no, game is not the problem. AMOGing is not the problem.

The problem is the people you are choosing as your friends. The fact that you mention the word "friends" and then describe them as joking at your expense signals the underlying problem. Are they your friends?? Maybe they're not bad people at all, but I would refrain from using the F word too liberally. Maybe "acquaintances" (fancy word!!) or just class/work mates or whatever.

So, 1st: They're not your friends. They're just the people you're hanging out with. As a suggestion, try hanging out with OTHER people (go for the laid back vibe, I just loved it when I found it Smile) for a while, and probably you will experience something similar than what happened to me: You go back to your old "friends" after months of not hanging out with them, and then you'll be terribly ANNOYED by their behavior.

So you say "hi", and guess what? They answer with some put-down joke and then you remember why you stopped hanging out with them in the first place Smile

Being able to just say "oh yeah, I just remembered, I have to go!" to some idiot that used to pick on you, and then going out with real friends (which are actually "cooler" if I may use that word), well, is one of the best feelings in the world.
07-26-2011 12:46 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
I've been acquainted with some of the most patronizing guys in the world. They would imitate my idiosyncrasies like the way I said hi or talked. It was actually pretty effing hilarious. I would be like, "Sonofabitch!! Bahahaha!" But they weren't real friends. People who'd have your back, you know? It's like the post above says. They're just people whom you hang out with.

I wouldn't be quick to disqualify them as friends though. Just establish some boundaries when you go out if you go out with the same people more or less consistently. If not, find better friends.
07-26-2011 01:18 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
Well you all enlightened a true sight of the matter.
the guy who did that in front of the girls,definitely saw it as competition,because I had already gained some value on the girls of the group(and he did not).And as you said my feeling is that I dont want to be in the same group with him unless I m sure first that I can put him in his position,I dont know if he damaged my "value",and I consider the word friend as relevant,because I have been suprised many times in the past.Some of these people are part of my social circle,thus difficult to avoid them,and the only real problem,is if it is able to harm my results,otherwise, really doesn't matter to me whatever they say.
Also I think this good boy behaviour that I take ,feels like having some something to do with my relation to girls but I m not sure I can analyze it further.
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2011 11:39 PM by Symor.)
07-26-2011 05:56 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
Symor, here is the thing. From a pure outer game perspective, use a reframe like, "Bugs bunny is the funniest shit" or "When you take the good'ol shotgun in your hand, it all comes clear" (Revelations from Mystery). You completely disallow the frame. They'll look at you like what the fuck? But as they stare at you, just switch topics to something else. Bam! You are in control again. Alternatively, ignore the statement, turn to your target girl and continue gaming her.

From an inner game perspective, you need to become immune to all this silly shit. Guys do this all the time. For example, my friend once alluded to me being fat while I was talking to a chick. Granted I'm way more talkative that this guy, so I just overpowered him. But even if he were not, I would ignore the statement and just talk to the target chick. He is a really nice guy and he didn't realize he was doing this. But he wanted the validation of a laugh from the chick and he did it.
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2011 03:22 PM by shadow.)
07-27-2011 01:50 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
To be honest, I can not understand how you can call such people your friends. When someone doesn't have respect for me as a human being or pulls me down in whatever way, I wouldn't spend my time with him and at the very least view him as a friend.

I did the mistake that I tolerated such behavior for a long time. The reason for that was that I had little self confidence and no self respect. Whether you tolerate such behavior or not, is only a matter of self respect. When you tolerate it, you open the door for it. Just imagine you made such a comment in front of someone with high social success, he would never ever tolerate it. He would raise his eye brows and ignore you. Whether you hang out with such people, depends on your opportunities. You wouldn't spend your time with those guys if you had better opportunities, right?

Your social circle is like a mirror of your character and lifestyle. Certain traits attract certain kinds of people. If you tolerate shit like that and want to be everyone's friend, you end up being the clown for people who need one.

What Tux said... that after some time not hanging out with them, they will annoy you. That's really true. In the end, when someone has the need to make other people look bad, he is just pathetic.

If I was you, I would stop hanging out with those people and look for new (real) friends who actually support you, open doors for you and make you feel good.

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(This post was last modified: 07-28-2011 09:57 AM by Extropy.)
07-28-2011 09:49 AM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
Ok ,there is no point trying to focus on my friends.My puprose was to locate my "weakness"in this situation like I had done in other things,thanks to marks blog.And to be honest there are other weaknesses,that make me worry right nowTongue
07-28-2011 04:31 PM
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RE: "Amoging" by your friends.
Tell them to cut it out, if they refuse then you need some new friends.
07-29-2011 03:20 PM
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