This has been brewing in my head for a little while now. At first I thought, heh, maybe it's just a fluke me only attracting and hooking up with these girls that are in relationships/engaged. But this past weekend when I was visiting a friend in NYC made it the 4th consecutive girl I have hooked up with that had a significant other. And probably out of the last 12-15 girls I've been with, 40% or so were in relationships of some kind.

Now, don't get me wrong, I definitely have my share blame of this. There will be times the girl actually tells me she has a significant other and I still continue to try and get with her. Mostly for my ego, validation, all of which I am trying to get control of and taming down (a lot of help from the Models book as well).

So my question is, if you have experience, or just advice in general, WHY is this happening? I'm not completely complaining, it is just befuddling me. And it is also frustrating that it seems like I am having more success with women with other people in their lives compared to those seeing someone in their lives. What do you guys think? Thanks in advance!

so what? good for you

My question is what is it I'm doing that seems to make me attract women in relationships far more than those who are single? That is the question.

I've been there (and lately it's been lesbians too). Asked this earlier; got some interesting and useful thoughts from Mark. Here:

http://www.practicalpickup.com/forum/sho...php?tid=33

I'm no psychiatrist or anything - nor have I much experience in what you're talking about - but my gut instinct is to say this somehow relates to Mark's ideas of self-selection...i.e. US MEN in reality, either consciously or subconsciously, accept or reject girls before THEY even have the chance to do so. Or, to put it another way, we have a subconscious agenda, and we look for girls that meet that agenda. If we superficially want to fuck a hot model club chick in a bathroom for "experience" but deep down resent girls like this for being shallow bimbo's - one way or another that's going to come out in the interaction - and you may feel that the GIRL is rejecting YOU when she doesn't drop her panties in the third stall of the men's room, but the truth is, one way or another, it's actually YOU rejecting the GIRL without realizing it. Women pick up on these underlying emotions.

Anyway, how this relates to you? My guess (and make no mistake, most problems are multi-factorial and I'm sure there are a number of other responses to your question that are just as equally valid), is that you're probably a decent or above average looking guy with decent or above average game and a fear of commitment. Thus, sub-consciously, you're sabotaging your chances with a girl when the possibility of a real relationship developing is present; and your true mac-daddy pimp game comes out when you hit on a girl that's DTF but doesn't have a real possibility of getting into a relationship. Meh?

Just a thought.

Brett

(07-24-2011 01:14 PM)Brett Wrote:  I'm no psychiatrist or anything - nor have I much experience in what you're talking about - but my gut instinct is to say this somehow relates to Mark's ideas of self-selection...i.e. US MEN in reality, either consciously or subconsciously, accept or reject girls before THEY even have the chance to do so. Or, to put it another way, we have a subconscious agenda, and we look for girls that meet that agenda. If we superficially want to fuck a hot model club chick in a bathroom for "experience" but deep down resent girls like this for being shallow bimbo's - one way or another that's going to come out in the interaction - and you may feel that the GIRL is rejecting YOU when she doesn't drop her panties in the third stall of the men's room, but the truth is, one way or another, it's actually YOU rejecting the GIRL without realizing it. Women pick up on these underlying emotions.

Anyway, how this relates to you? My guess (and make no mistake, most problems are multi-factorial and I'm sure there are a number of other responses to your question that are just as equally valid), is that you're probably a decent or above average looking guy with decent or above average game and a fear of commitment. Thus, sub-consciously, you're sabotaging your chances with a girl when the possibility of a real relationship developing is present; and your true mac-daddy pimp game comes out when you hit on a girl that's DTF but doesn't have a real possibility of getting into a relationship. Meh?

Just a thought.

Brett

Or it could be his nose.