Didn't know Deangelo did shit like that. I know both Mehow and PUA Training were really notorious for it though -- hidden subscriptions, not able to cancel, not given refunds, etc.

Oh yeah, PUA training was a real fucker - since they offer a "free" dvd set, you only pay for shipping, and then they bill you an exhorbitant amount of money every month. It is odd that their US operations seem really above-board - Adam lyons products are cheap, bootcamps get good reviews, etc, but their UK side is mega shady.

Didn't know about Mehow. I do think it's funny that Mehow and VA have 10 grand programs to become a pua instructor.

Back in the day, when Mehow was running his $10k "become a coach" program, it was a 12-month thing and very involved. I remember word on the street was that like 80% of the guys in it were getting no where and still sucked and either dropped out or demanded their money back and it became a giant fiasco that killed his cash-flow. Might even be the reason why he went under for a while.

Well he's apparently offering it again. I hadn't realized the company went under for a while.

I don't know what happened to him, but after Fuji jumped ship in '09 he basically fell off the map for a year and a half. He's trying to make a comeback now because he got an episode on MTV: True Life and I guess he thinks that's going to reboot his business. Which I doubt. Honestly, I wish he'd just go away.

It seems like the best thing he had going was that fuji got good reviews as an instructor. Mehow has some of the dumbest stuff i have seen out there - his routines are just painfully cornball.

Mehow sounds like a flaming homosexual robot. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I saw the pisode from mtv true life.

Did anyone heared the lines that guy was using? HORRIBLE!!

And Mehow's response. Dude your game is tight! ummm yeah....

Saw part of this. Hilarious on so many levels.

1) you cant tell a 40 year old woman that you want to be spanked. That's not a turn on for middle aged women.

2) GG keeps talking about not compromising her morals by sleeping with her sugar daddy - however letting him think she's going to sleep with him and then not, totally ethical.

edit:

woah - mehow's girl is like some old stripper! he appeared on camera with her?

Yeah, that's Mel. They're not together. Supposedly they used to date, but I'm not sure if I believe it. She's old, fake and cranky.

Fuji was by far the best thing that business had going. He's an excellent coach and a good salesman. I'm surprised he didn't jump ship much earlier (and I actually encouraged him to back in '09).

Anyway... this is getting all PUA gossipy, which I hate.