I've seen a few discussions on here about not to persistently follow up or not keep girls in your phone for a long time or not follow up after a few months etc.. Not to reopen at the end of the night again.

Hot girls have lots of options and several male suitors at times.

You may not be her first option or choice, so what!! you can always hang around try again later and she may all of a sudden be up for hanging with you.

Also a hot girl who parties a lot may make plans to hang out with you, but suddenly cancel when a better offer comes. But then when she's bored she may be up for meeting with you and you can still escalate and close.

Or she gets dumped by an asshole and is on the rebound and then texts you.

Or she flakes then you see her at a club and then game as if she never flaked and spark it up again.

So i'm curious how guys can think its realistic to meet a hot girl with a big social life and have her cancel everything to meet you very soon without a lot of follow up, flakes , and then finally cracking it??

I'm not seeing or convinced how a hot chick will meet up for a day 2 without some work and patience and luck!!

I think it is a case of effort/reward ratio. Too much work needs to be put in to pursue hot girl X, work which will reap more rewards with women that actually like you and want to hang out with you. Such girls can be gamed in passive mode. Invite the girl out everytime you do something.

Some points:
- good looking normal girls don't desperately need to have sex, obviously everyone wants sex
- just because they are good looking, doesn't mean they are arrogant bitches
- if she is not into you, she is not into you. don't waste your time and have some more self-respect
- if she flakes you, she is just not interested. flaking is as respectless as it can get. why would you still be interested in her after that?
- if a is very attractive, you usually need to be on one level in the status pyramid (charisma, looks, lifestyle, money, job, clothing, etc). Good luck getting Maria Sharapova with 'game'
- if you put a girl on a podest, you will NEVER get her, unless she has low self esteem and wants some guy to look down on

I rarely ever delete a chicks number. What's the point? you never know when she'll come around and i have enough girls in my life to not get butt hurt if she flakes on me. If they flake on me a number of times, I just put them in the mass text zone. If I or any of my close friends ever throw parties I send out a mass text to these girls. Some girls who flaked on me in the past end up showing up. I even got a lay out of it once. But, it's important to note that usually if a chick flakes, your game wasn't good enough when you got her number.

(07-18-2011 12:47 PM)Playmaker001 Wrote:  But, it's important to note that usually if a chick flakes, your game wasn't good enough when you got her number.

It's a PUA myth that you can get any girl if only your game is good enough.

Even when have charisma, excellent game, social status, some money and are good lucking, most girls wont be sexually interested in you (because you are not their type, they have a boyfriend, they aren't in the right mood, are a bit frigid, etc)

IMO it's much more important to just figure out what girls you really want and for what and then go for that.

BTW, if you don't want to hang out with someone and he calls, messages and invites you all the time, what do you think of him?

(07-15-2011 11:09 PM)Extropy Wrote:  Some points:
- good looking normal girls don't desperately need to have sex, obviously everyone wants sex
- just because they are good looking, doesn't mean they are arrogant bitches
- if she is not into you, she is not into you. don't waste your time and have some more self-respect
- if she flakes you, she is just not interested. flaking is as respectless as it can get. why would you still be interested in her after that?
- if a is very attractive, you usually need to be on one level in the status pyramid (charisma, looks, lifestyle, money, job, clothing, etc). Good luck getting Maria Sharapova with 'game'
- if you put a girl on a podest, you will NEVER get her, unless she has low self esteem and wants some guy to look down on

Dude, I don't know why or rationalize, I just have experience where lets say I have 8 phone numbers of girls I haven't met up with. If I periodically text them every two weeks or more eventually I'll get at least two of them to meet up with me. This is with small effort and not draining at all. Keep them in the pipeline untill you don't feel like it. Your a cool guy on his path and if they are down to meet cool, if not maybe another time. Your not attached either way.

If anything maybe she'll show up to a party of yours with her hot friend you can hook up with. Happened once to me.

Do those two out of eight end up fucking you?

(07-23-2011 08:47 AM)Mark Wrote:  Do those two out of eight end up fucking you?

Yep, That was the case here. So thats why I say keep it in the pipeline,

Another case was a budy of mine had a girl not return his calls, but he knew what bar she worked at. So he showed up with friends every two weeks and acted like it was no big deal she didn't call back. They ended up hooking up eventually.

I treat this type of thing as a nothing to lose experiment, Only ONCE did a girl ever say "stop texting me" and I did.

But if your getting so much pussy that you don't have or patience time to call or follow up on these numbers again thats not a bad thing

Mark,

You talked about being persistent in this post. But I'm wondering what persistent looks for your.

http://www.practicalpickup.com/life-thro...iful-woman

Can anyone define for me what being persistent means for you. Is it just following up with a text or phone call weeks out? Just not letting a number die..

I have to agree with pros80, keep em in the pipeline, but don't put any extra effort into them.

Same exact situation has happened to me many times. I even keep girls in the pipe who I know aren't interested so I can bring them to parties and have them BAF for me.

It takes almost zero effort:
"Hey Cindy, long time no hear, how ya been?
Me and some friends are having a party on Saturday at XYZ, come on out and join us if you have time ~"

If its been a really long time, just remind them who you are when you message em ~

The hottest chick I got down and dirty with last year was a direct result of such pipelining... just don't expect to get results often like this and enjoy them when they come around =]