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When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
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When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
I've had quite some success since I started that journey. I'm far from being perfect, but I think I got all the basics under control, and my life is well balanced. The main thing I can improve in is just (life) experience.

I've got one major problem however: When it comes to the the quality of girls, it's like there's a threshold I can't get over.

The girls I usually date are (physically) average - and thats fine, considering that not so long ago I thought I had to settle for below-average girls.

With average-looking girls, everything runs smooth. Opening, talking, escalation... sometimes it feels effortless.
With hot, above-average looking girls however its hard, and they're usually not attracted.

It feels like its a market, put it in numbers (actually I hate that HB-scale thing) lets say I'm a 6. I get a chance with every girl that is below 6, and I'm becoming more and more skilled in converting that chance. But with a girl that is above 6, I don't stand a chance.

Long story short, I'm currently improving in the quantity of girls I sleep with and the conversion ratio, but not the quality.

I love my life right now and I'm happier than ever before, I'm not in for some big lifestyle changes, so what can I do?
06-02-2011 07:53 PM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
"Long story short, I'm currently improving in the quantity of girls I sleep with and the conversion ratio, but not the quality."

If you're only interested in sleeping with these girls, why should quality matter?
06-04-2011 12:40 AM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
(06-04-2011 12:40 AM)youregettingitwrong Wrote:  "Long story short, I'm currently improving in the quantity of girls I sleep with and the conversion ratio, but not the quality."

If you're only interested in sleeping with these girls, why should quality matter?

You'll enjoy it even more? And the world isn't black and white.
06-04-2011 01:19 AM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
Sadly, I think the misunderstanding here is that by "quality," cobrastyle means "looks."

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06-04-2011 02:15 AM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
(06-04-2011 02:15 AM)Mark Wrote:  Sadly, I think the misunderstanding here is that by "quality," cobrastyle means "looks."

Tongue Oh yeah. Completely missed that.
06-04-2011 02:54 AM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
To answer your question cobra, let me ask you a few questions:

- In the last year, how many times a week have you gone to the gym on average?
- Approximately how many total calories and grams of protein do you consume each day?
- When was the last time you upgraded your wardrobe? How much did you spend on it?
- Do you normally go out with groups of friends? Or just a bunch of lair guys?
- How much did you spend on your last haircut? On average, how often do you get it cut?
- How consistent are you with "average" looking girls? Have you slept with 10 or 20 in the last year?
- How nervous are you talking to hotter girls?

The reason I'm asking these questions is because the wider the looks discrepancy is between you and her, the less patient she's going to be. Average looking girls are easy because they have fewer options, so they're usually going to be more patient if you've got weak game or are nervous. Hot girls have more options, so they're going to have little to no patience for nervousness or weak game. Of course, the better looking you are, the more patient they suddenly become.

So there's your answer. Fix your game. Or fix your looks. Preferably fix both.

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06-04-2011 03:01 AM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
One good way to have success regularly with girls that are significantly better looking than yourself is... learning to connect with them on a personal/emotional level.

It's a skill that can be learned. You can even develop routines for that (I have 6 or 7 "emotional connection" routines I've fieldtested over and over again).
06-04-2011 08:15 PM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
Hmm, for some reason nowaday, i dont even have any belief that any girl is "significantly" better looking than me. I have a belief that i'm her type by the look on her eyes, or i'm not her type. Sometime i'm a hot girls type and sometime, a fat girl dont think i'm her type.

But inner game aside, i'm curious about your emotional connection routines. I'm obviously not going to copy it, but i want to see the psychology behind it.
06-04-2011 08:30 PM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
(06-04-2011 08:30 PM)Brian Wrote:  i'm curious about your emotional connection routines. ... i want to see the psychology behind it.

Ok, if you look at my gameplan (http://www.practicalpickup.com/forum/sho...?tid=305), I use these routines AFTER she has invested into the interaction and she has opened up to me a bit on a personal level. Here is one example of an emotional connection routine. I work with a multiple thread covering several small talk topics, and one of them is travelling (by the way, being well-travelled=life experience=maturity, manliness=big DHV).

Then I tell her a story about a childhood experience. When I was 5 years old I travelled to Barcelona and I have seen the sea for the very first time in my life. In the Barcelona harbour there’s a reconstruction of the “Santa Maria”, the ship Columbus discovered America with. Everything was new to me. The light blue of the sky combined with the deep blue of the sea, the noise of the waves clapping at the boat, the salty and fresh smell of the air, the feeling when I touched the warm wooden blanks of the boat. (I try to describe all this stuff in a way as sensual as possible.) It was completely overwhelming.

Then I try to bait the girl – indirectly – to tell similar stories of what she has experienced. Moments of excitement or moments of joy related to travelling.


But please keep in mind that this is NOT a wonder weapon. It only works if the girl has opened up to you before. If this is the case, routines like that can speed up the process of connecting.

(By the way the girls I have dates with are slender and pretty or even very pretty and 5ft3 to 5ft6, but NOT the 5ft11 supermodel types (the “9s and 10s”). Just to be honest about that.)
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06-04-2011 09:30 PM
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RE: When it comes to the 'quality' of girls, I feel like I'm running against a wall
(06-04-2011 09:30 PM)General G Wrote:  
(06-04-2011 08:30 PM)Brian Wrote:  i'm curious about your emotional connection routines. ... i want to see the psychology behind it.
Then I tell her a story about a childhood experience. When I was 5 years old I travelled to Barcelona and I have seen the sea for the very first time in my life. In the Barcelona harbour there’s a reconstruction of the “Santa Maria”, the ship Columbus discovered America with. Everything was new to me. The light blue of the sky combined with the deep blue of the sea, the noise of the waves clapping at the boat, the salty and fresh smell of the air, the feeling when I touched the warm wooden blanks of the boat. (I try to describe all this stuff in a way as sensual as possible.) It was completely overwhelming.

Then I try to bait the girl – indirectly – to tell similar stories of what she has experienced. Moments of excitement or moments of joy related to travelling.

Interesting, GG. Would like to pick your brain on some of your other ideas re. this. PS, you know Columbus didn't really discover America right? Tongue

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06-05-2011 02:19 AM
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