Seems like there's a ton of stuff on how to attract girls and broad concepts, but little on how to ensure you have a date that ends well. By that I mean either getting laid or at the very least her wanting to see you again.

I have very little experience when it comes to real world dating. In college there was always a party or event that I could invite a girl to where the alcohol was free flowing and everything in walking distance. Super easy.

Now that I'm in the real world I feel kind of lost. I remember Mark talking in the past about guys who would take new girls on the exact same date every time and had all the nuances mastered. I would love to hear more about this and how to go about creating something similar for myself.

The biggest things seem to be finding opportunities to escalate and eventually being able to get the girl back to my place or hers. If anyone has a system or series of activities they do to allow this happen I'd love to hear them.

I would look into some of the stuff written by Paul Janka, I think it's called How to have sex in NY or something like that. Although alot of his ideas are kind of out there / a little creepy, he does suggest planing out the night. It describes how he does this and why a lot of dates such as going to dinner are not productive.

Janka's date includes taking her to a place next to your apartment and tricking her into ordering alcoholic drinks. He also talks about double- and triple- booking girls.

It's not very practicable, especially for a newer guy.

I have a Guide to First Dates that's a bonus for pretty much all of my products. It's 15 pages or so and has been a staple for years now.

(05-21-2011 08:08 PM)Mark Wrote:  Janka's date includes taking her to a place next to your apartment and tricking her into ordering alcoholic drinks.

That's so creative. I'm sure no one here ever thought of that.

(05-21-2011 08:08 PM)Mark Wrote:  Janka's date includes taking her to a place next to your apartment and tricking her into ordering alcoholic drinks.

Heh. I live in a really nice area now, so I used this complex, advanced strategy myself.

Except she ordered alcohol herself! I didn't even have to brainwash or hypnotize her.

(05-21-2011 08:08 PM)Mark Wrote:  Janka's date includes taking her to a place next to your apartment and tricking her into ordering alcoholic drinks. He also talks about double- and triple- booking girls.

It's not very practicable, especially for a newer guy.

I have a Guide to First Dates that's a bonus for pretty much all of my products. It's 15 pages or so and has been a staple for years now.

I know a lot of guys who I respect tend to say good things about him, but his advice sounds really date-rape-y at times.

His old book had the date-rape-y stuff in it. His newer book "Attraction Formula" I thought was great.

Ah, that is what I saw. That makes sense. I do get the sense he knows what he's talking about, but he has some messed up attitudes about women, which makes me a bit wary of throwing him business.

Yeah, don't be mistaken. Paul is ruthless. Not heartless, but ruthless. He doesn't pull any punches or sugarcoat anything.

What can you do if you wanna have a fun or adventorous date in the evening? During the day there are many options, but since "daytime is for friends, night time is for lovers", I am really searching for something different and more adventorous than always going to 1 or 2 bars in the evening with my date.