(05-19-2011 08:49 AM)Extropy Wrote:  

(05-19-2011 02:19 AM)DaveyDrama Wrote:  Obviously everyone's morals and values are different. Mine are probably different from 99% of the guys on this forum. Hell, I don't even have SEX with girls. I try to stay as close to my Christian beliefs as possible.

Player who doesnt have sex. At least you are consistent with your values and beliefs.

Obviously, its none of my business, but I think you were better off, if you focused on what has the best consequences for you and the people affected by your actions instead of following 2000 year old contradictory texts. Those beliefs rather harm you than help you.

That's a pretty ignorant opinion dude and I'm sorry you feel that way. If you ever feel like talking about it in private, my door's always open.

Someone told Asian Playboy "If she is a racist, fuck her!" and he took that advice literally

lol @Frozen Flame


@Davey: I kinda have to agree with Extropy. I wouldn´t describe it as "following 2000 year old contradictory texts", for me it is whether you act out of your emotions with a "fuck it!" attitude (#When keepin´it real goes wrong) or if you use your head and think about whether the consequences are worth it or not.

I don´t know what happened at the family party or at your work, so I cannot say whether you had a good reason or not. But for me there must be a very very big reason to start a fight at a family party (and ruining it) or at work (and risking your job).

An example: A few weeks ago I surprised my date with a predrinking on a very romantical place. It was really a roofblaster. The only bad thing about it was a big group of teenagers getting drunk. While we were holding in our arms and making out some of the teens walked by and one of them said: "What´s up nigga?" (my girl was half black, half latin). He didn´t say it to our face, but we could hear it clearly. I let it go for 2 reasons.

First, she was not offended at all. She is really not someone who takes everything racist (it was actually racist though but i will cover that in the 2nd reason) and asks you: "What do you mean with YOU PEOPLE?". In fact, after he said this, I was really mad and stared at these guys thinking about my options. She said: "Why you look that aggresssive? Forget about these drunk kids".
If this would have happened with my ex, who is African American, she would definitely have been offended and I would have get in this guys face.

Second, the boy didn´t mean it racist. In Germany by far most white people don´t have any black friends and therefore don´t really understand the meaning of the n word. Specially kids who listen to rap and hear it there all the time, think it is not a big of a deal.
Imo, this guy was just jealous cus i am making out with a superhot chick, taking her home later and he is drinking with his buddies, going to his parents house alone later and shaking the palm tree. Additionally, he just wanted to be cool in front of his friends.

So if my girl is not offended, and the boy didn´t mean it racist, why should I ruin such a beautiful moment and probably the whole night and getting in a fight with some drunk teenagers? It was really not worth it.

(05-18-2011 06:42 AM)Mark Wrote:  True. I guess if it offends you enough, then no sex is worth it. I guess it just didn't offend him enough, or the sex was that much more important. Either way, take what you will.

Now that I think about it, there are a handful of things women have said in the past that were just so egregiously offensive that I couldn't stomach to be around them.

Yes, I guess it´s all come down to whether you can be happy with yourself of what you did or whether you just thought with your dick and forget about YOUR OWN values.

I might be intolerant about this one, but i really cannot understand how racism cannot be an immediate turn off (and not how JT did it and stick your tongue in her mouth right after she said it).
I mean, we all want to get to the point (some already are) where we can chose the girls by our high standards. A famous PUA should definetly be at this point. So why then take a racist, disrespectful cunt home if there are so many hot and cool chicks outside?

(05-19-2011 09:01 PM)Frozen Flame Wrote:  Someone told Asian Playboy "If she is a racist, fuck her!" and he took that advice literally

Haha. If this was Facebook, I would 'Like' this.

Quote:@Davey: I kinda have to agree with Extropy. I wouldn´t describe it as "following 2000 year old contradictory texts", for me it is whether you act out of your emotions with a "fuck it!" attitude (#When keepin´it real goes wrong) or if you use your head and think about whether the consequences are worth it or not.

I don't really see what those things have to do with eachother. lol.

PS. You handled that situation well, by the way you described it. The people where I live (a rural area in Southern Ontario) are pretty ignorant to other cultures, and many of them have a pretty redneck/racist attitude towards them. Especially brown people. So there's definitely a difference there.

(05-18-2011 05:35 AM)Mark Wrote:  I guess this is what you were getting at equilibrium. And I guess this is me throwing him a bone. Assuming he was going for the ONS (which I imagine he was), then I guess it's fine... I think he needs to make that clear though, because I don't think newbies recognize the difference in process between gaming for a ONS and gaming for a girlfriend.

Just wanted to jump back to this. My perspective is this: there are certainly girls I try to hook up with that I know will never be my girlfriend, either for logistical reasons (she doesn't live where I do) or because I can tell we aren't that compatible. However, I don't really have much interest in having sex with women I just don't like and never want to see again. In other words, I will usually not hook up with a girl if I am thinking to myself "I hope to god you never try to see me again"

@DD: I just recognized that Extropy´s post was just about you holding to your christian beliefs. In that case, me qouting him doesn´t make any sense lol.
My point was just that sometimes we need to let shit go, because the consequences are not worth it. And the bigger they are, the more we have to let it go.

Believe me, I really would have liked to bitchslap this little douchbag...

(05-20-2011 12:52 AM)Jon Wrote:  In other words, I will usually not hook up with a girl if I am thinking to myself "I hope to god you never try to see me again"

Lmao. I can respect this.

Nice thread. I can't speak about JT, but as far as I am concerned, silly shit like this doesn't even register on my map. I treat it like a child's pscyo babble. I don't see any reason to get upset (atleast internally). Who cares what she thinks?

To me, by fucking her, JT did far more to improve her perception than by trying to make her feel guilty by getting angry. If he had gotten angry, apart from losing his internal equilibrium, he would have lost the girl or temporary quelled her "racism" by overpowering her with his indignation. Far better to ignore it all together and allow her to change herself.

If Mark is talking about mock indignation as a technique to generate attraction, I can see that. But it must be done without losing internal equilibrium. Would one get angry if a child is spouting bullshit? Racism is just ignorant bullshit parroted by grown children imitating their parents/peers.

And yes, I am Asian.

JT believes that by fucking her, she completely change her perception toward asian.

Plus, he has an added incentive of posting this particular LR.

Most guys get laid with girls who already wanted to fuck them. JT wants to prove that his game is so fantastic that he can fuck a girl EVEN if she's racist and at first isnt attracted to asian guy. He felt it gives him more credibility with his game.

(05-20-2011 03:15 AM)shadow Wrote:  If Mark is talking about mock indignation as a technique to generate attraction, I can see that. But it must be done without losing internal equilibrium. Would one get angry if a child is spouting bullshit? Racism is just ignorant bullshit parroted by grown children imitating their parents/peers.

And yes, I am Asian.

I agree with this and I agree with what JT said... you're not going to get anywhere with her by arguing with her. Again, it comes back to boundaries. If it bothers you, you should make it clear, but without letting it get the best of you. If you don't care, then sure, go for it.