I had this conversation with a dating coach at the beginning of this year:
-Leo: What's going on with some girls? We have a great interaction, the attraction is huge, we keep flirting with each other BUT when I ask them out on dates they just make it almost impossible to get together. Why is it so hard to go out on dates if we are obviously attracted to each other?
-DC: She's in her process.
-Leo: What do you mean?
-DC: We men are like light swithches, women are like volume knobs. It takes time to them to feel comfortable with you to go out on dates.
-Leo: But why so much complication, why do I have to wait for so long?
-DC: Are you gonna take it personally? Just be persistent, communicate with her. If she says no, try again later.
-Leo: How about if I get tired of being waiting for so long for her?
-DC Who said there's a certain period of time? I pursue a girl that I was very interested to get to know her better for 7 months. While I was living my life and dating other women.
-Leo: IDK, I want everything to happen quickly, I think if she doesn't want to go out with me ASAP even thougfh she's attracted to me then she's just playing with me and getting a lot of validation.

Every time I think about this conversation I believe that the DC is right and I'm wrong. I think I have no patience at all and I don't trust women when they don't go out with me on dates ASAP. When I was talking with the dating coach I noticed he was totally relaxed while I was impatient and kinda mad about having to wait for a girl's process. At the same time Mark mention his passion for the process in his site: http://www.practicalpickup.com/passion-for-the-process
And it's classified under confidence. That's what I was thinking, I lack confidence when girls act like this, I think: she doesn't really like me, she's just getting attention, etc. When I really observe closely I can see how the girl is opening up little by little, getting more comfortable with me. I have to find a way to become a patient person and to enjoy this process that the DC and Mark talk about. I'm trying to become that person but it's not easy. Sometimes it's hard for me to stay interested in a girl that I can't go out on dates with her in a "reasonable" period of time. Have you guys had a similar experience like mine? How have you learned to be more patient and interested in agirl while she's in her process?

Yep, I'm just like that. Very impatient. I've been a fast learner my whole life, so I'm not used to all my effort falling down a sinkhole. When I get numbers that don't go anywhere, my tendency is to just quit calling or texting it. I feel like I'm pouring all my energy out for no reason when I keep contacting them and getting nothing back in return.

It's been a couple of months now, and I don't think I'm any more patient. If anything, I have LESS tolerance for it. I'll contact her two or three times, and let it go.
I think it was Roosh who said that time is your enemy when it comes to getting a girl out on a date. The more time that goes by after that initial interaction, the less likely you are to ever see her again. If I haven't been able to get her on the phone or a date in 2 weeks, I usually stop wasting my time.
My way of dealing with it has been to do more nightgame and work on escalating harder right there on the spot.
I've found that if I kiss the girl and then get a #, it's much more valuable. If there's no kiss, I don't ask for the #. Less 'process' and irritation that way.

I agree with you but what I talked about was related to social circle game and to those girls that have a long process to feel comfortable with you. It happens, everybody is different.

(05-16-2011 01:09 PM)KickBomber Wrote:  Yep, I'm just like that. Very impatient. I've been a fast learner my whole life, so I'm not used to all my effort falling down a sinkhole. When I get numbers that don't go anywhere, my tendency is to just quit calling or texting it. I feel like I'm pouring all my energy out for no reason when I keep contacting them and getting nothing back in return.

It's been a couple of months now, and I don't think I'm any more patient. If anything, I have LESS tolerance for it. I'll contact her two or three times, and let it go.
I think it was Roosh who said that time is your enemy when it comes to getting a girl out on a date. The more time that goes by after that initial interaction, the less likely you are to ever see her again. If I haven't been able to get her on the phone or a date in 2 weeks, I usually stop wasting my time.
My way of dealing with it has been to do more nightgame and work on escalating harder right there on the spot.
I've found that if I kiss the girl and then get a #, it's much more valuable. If there's no kiss, I don't ask for the #. Less 'process' and irritation that way.

Ok. I didn't see the words 'social circle' anywhere in your post, so I assumed you were talking about cold approaches.