As we all know, NC´s are overrated because of the high flake rate (depends on your game skills obviously). A way to reduce it is to ask the girl for a date, and not her number. Soon as you find out a date where both have time and a location for the date, ask her for her number in case something happens. The evening before the date you call and tell her, that you just wanted to be sure whether she still got time tomorrow (you´re doing this in case she forget it).

By not giving you only her number but also admitting on a date, she is comitting herself somehow. Therefore it is not that easy for her to flake (don´t answering her phone is not an option, since she at least has to cancel it). Plus, you are showing confidence and that you know what you want by asking her direct for a date.

I always wondered, that I never read something about this close, because it is as easy as a NC and improves your chances for a date.

People in the community call it time bridging. I'll usually get a number by suggesting a date and time and general activity, and then text to set up a place in the next day or two. I don't bother to call.

(05-13-2011 12:28 AM)8_ball Wrote:  By not giving you only her number but also admitting on a date, she is comitting herself somehow. Therefore it is not that easy for her to flake (don´t answering her phone is not an option, since she at least has to cancel it). Plus, you are showing confidence and that you know what you want by asking her direct for a date.

Dude, if she is not interested, she is not interested. You can't force them to date and love you.

If she likes you, she will date you anyway. If not, why even bother? Being pushy might be helpful for a ONS but otherwise it just destroys everything.

(05-13-2011 06:02 PM)Extropy Wrote:  

(05-13-2011 12:28 AM)8_ball Wrote:  By not giving you only her number but also admitting on a date, she is comitting herself somehow. Therefore it is not that easy for her to flake (don´t answering her phone is not an option, since she at least has to cancel it). Plus, you are showing confidence and that you know what you want by asking her direct for a date.

Dude, if she is not interested, she is not interested. You can't force them to date and love you.

If she likes you, she will date you anyway. If not, why even bother? Being pushy might be helpful for a ONS but otherwise it just destroys everything.

I don´t try to force her or to MAKE her like me.

Often the girl is just insecure or don´t feel like going out even that she likes you. My ex for example was very attracted when I approached her, she did hella much kino on me and gave me her number although I didn´t ask for. She flaked on me once, and was thinking about flaking on the 2nd day (like she told me later), because she just didnt feel like going out.
By planning a date after your approach it will be harder for her to cncel it for such minor reasons. But you are right, if she is not attracted, she will flake anyway