(07-02-2011 06:37 AM)youregettingitwrong Wrote:  Sounds like you might be coming to this realization yourself though.

Yep! Especially after I got your help. Thanks a lot youregettingitwrong.

(07-02-2011 07:32 AM)Mark Wrote:  Pros: if a girl takes months to come around on me, you know what that says to me? "You're my back, back, back, back, back up plan and I'm pretty desperate." No thank you.

Not necessarily. As I said before I've dealt with crazy girls, unfortunately. Girls that were betrayed, mistreated, beat up, etc and they need a lot of time and effort to trust you, but that's their business, NOT MINE. I'm not gonna priotize crazy girls over me anymore. Fuck it!

(07-02-2011 03:22 PM)Mark Wrote:  Yeah... there are def guys who do get girls to come around by persisting for weeks or months. But I guess I just don't care enough? I know Sinn will text girls months later and has had stuff like this happen. I just don't care enough I guess.

She's gotta be REALLY special for me to still be trying to contact her a month later.

Wow Mark, So you've never received an out of the blue phone call or text from a girl or number that went wood?

I figured you would have? I've had my fair share of out of the blue texts that lead to a meetup!! But I see if you have enough ones that don't take this long you won't waste time responding to those ones.

Do you mean a girl who flaked on me initially? Or just random girls I had met?

It's happened. There's a girl who still hits me up on Facebook about once a year trying to find out when I'm going to be in NYC next. There was also a girl who kept hitting me up while I was in my relationship a few years back.

But again, I guess I just don't care? By that point I've lost interest, so I don't bother. Unless she was super hot or super special in some way, I've moved on.

(05-18-2011 07:03 AM)youregettingitwrong Wrote:  Girls don't thrive on the chase like guys do, we thrive on security. When we like a guy, we want him to show us and tell us that he is interested!

You know what a girl told me just few days ago?
-When I know I have the guy I lose interest.
So, here we go again with being a challenge, not showing too much interest, etc, etc.
Or maybe this girl has issues? Geez! this is complicated. There's no recipe for ALL girls. Everybody is different, of course.

Leo... read the new book coming out next week. I think it's best thought of in terms of neediness and investment. As soon as a girl knows a guy likes her more than she likes him, yeah, she's done.

(07-03-2011 01:46 AM)Mark Wrote:  Leo... read the new book coming out next week. I think it's best thought of in terms of neediness and investment. As soon as a girl knows a guy likes her more than she likes him, yeah, she's done.

So, how does this make sense with showing as much interest as you want. It doesn't make sense. To be honest it sounds contradictory.

(07-02-2011 08:57 PM)Mark Wrote:  Do you mean a girl who flaked on me initially? Or just random girls I had met?

It's happened. There's a girl who still hits me up on Facebook about once a year trying to find out when I'm going to be in NYC next. There was also a girl who kept hitting me up while I was in my relationship a few years back.

But again, I guess I just don't care? By that point I've lost interest, so I don't bother. Unless she was super hot or super special in some way, I've moved on.

I guess this attitude is why you don't plow or advocate it. If you have lots of other options why would you expend energy trying to plow someone open. You say you don't have time for that BS and next it.

I guess thats your style Mark?

Pretty much. I advocate plowing in certain situations for newbies. But if a girl doesn't like you, or is not reciprocating interest after multiple efforts. Then I see no reason in banging your head against a wall. Even if 5% of the time, the girl will come around and bang you, what's the point? That energy is better used pursuing other women who would be excited to meet you.

(07-03-2011 01:46 AM)Mark Wrote:  Leo... read the new book coming out next week. I think it's best thought of in terms of neediness and investment. As soon as a girl knows a guy likes her more than she likes him, yeah, she's done.

I have to say I completely disagree with this. The whole basis of my "game" is persistence, and she is obviously going to know that I like her better. How does one pursue a girl who is neutral at first, without her not knowing that the guy likes her more than she likes him?
Maybe the statement has to do with relationships, whereby if a guy is obviously way more into her than vice versa, then there will be problems.