It seem that almost all inexperience men have this belief. It's almost like a cope out.

Basically, instead of blaming their lack of charms, looks, confidence, self esteem etc, they rather blame on something they absolutely cannot change.

I remember years ago, I used to have this. I even thought of wearing a platform boot/motocycle boot and see if there's ANY change in girls perception toward me. I wore a 4 inch motocycle boot one day, making me about 6 foot tall and it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to change women's perception.

I also met a natural who's 5'0 tall and he fucks more girls than most pua who are 6'4+.

Hell, even my own brother, while only average in height, who's a multi millionaire absolutely believe that height is an absolute advantage.

Jesus

I've never met a guy who by his height alone get any reasonably attractive women. I do not understand where this even comes from.

Just know this..somewhere out there, there's a pua or a natural who easily have sex with 100 times more women than you and he does NOT have height limiting belief.

Dont get me wrong though, yes, height is a slight bonus. But overall, imo, it's completely inferior to looks + confidence. An average looking dude who's tall will not get as much attraction as a good looking dude who's average height. This is the absolute truth. i have countless evidence for this. We're not even talking about putting game into the equation.

Thank you. I've met so many short guys who kill it with women.

Representing the 5'8 demographic here. Sure I'd like to be taller, but it's never been an issue.

If you're using height as an excuse, it's a weak one. Even if you're legally a midget, there are women out there who have fetishes for you. Just ask Vern Troyer ..

Great thread.

Height can be a BIG bonus in two areas. Clubs and online. I am a bit less than average height (in boots am really around 5'8) and have found that in clubs (particularly the downtown NYC, Miami and Vegas to a degree) height is a big factor. Why? Well if a chick is say 5'5 and she is wearing those 5" inch heels she is then tall! Yeah you can try and knock them down sort of speak but its tough. Even the shorter girls seem to be wowed by the taller dudes and its a tough competition. The heels these chicks wear seem to give them a sense of dominance - kind of like a mountain lion on a mountain ledge. I have been shit tested beyond belief in those places so it can be difficult at least what I have found. I just dont go to clubs anymore. Its not worth it.

Online can be worse. Women shop you on a logical level so if you are not her favorite "tuna on whole wheat hold the mayo" or "low fat low sodium turkey" she typically shops in the deli line, its difficult to express one's personality to overcome the usual objection "only looking for 5'10 or greater". Women look at men as if they are shopping on ebay or what "they think they want."

However here is where it changes and can change big in a guy's favor. Now when in say a party, restaurant or even in general real life women are not as discriminate and they are not using their logic side as strongly. At first they might look at you and say, "this guy is not my type, but he is funny and cool and my friends or the people in here seem to really like him." This is key. Social proof. If her friends and "other people" like you, she will be much more favorable. Unless you have connections or introduced in a club, this is tough. Online its impossible to pull this off without great photos or some kind of commonality (hobby, religion, politics, music).

So height problems are a true reality in certain areas. Its not a limiting belief nor do I think its mature to say its just a limiting belief when you are in clubs or online, its real and tangible. However in "real life" it can be quite different and it can be a limiting belief if you let it.

Just my thoughts. Good thread.

Just give yourself a couple extra inches online. Everyone does it. Girls put up close angle photos online to hide the fact they're fat. The average person claims they make 20% more money then they actually do. Here, read this article - http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-bi...ne-dating/ It's an unfortunate part of the online experience.

As for being in the club...you just gotta be more aggressive. That, or don't go to clubs...they suck.

I want to address the whole "you gotta be taller in club game" limiting belief. Let me tell you this..it IS a limiting belief.

I'm about average in height. My current girl without heel is 1 inch taller than me and she absolutely tower over me with heels. Because i do not have height limiting belief, it's common for me to hookup with girls who tower over me with their heels. Literally, it's not even a factor for me at all whatsoever.

Have i ever hook up with a girl who's 5'0? yes, and the girls who are 5'10, i felt about them EXACTLY the same way when i hit on a girl who's only 5'0.

The biggest thing i can feel on a girl depends on how hot they are. Obviously, a fat girl is going to get less attraction from me than a physically hotter girl.

Your height limiting belief puts you in your head and fucks you up interacting with a girl. Here's what's going on when you talk to a girl:

Hb(thoughts): oooh, he's kinda cute. I'm going to flirt with him.
you the pua(thoughts): omg, she's so much taller than me.
you: ugh, hello. How are you(with nerviousness on your face).
hb(thoughts): he's cute but he's so weird. He doesnt look comfortable around me, i should leave.
you(thoughts): omg, she reject me because i'm so short!!

That's probably what happen most of the time in reality when you have this belief.

Height in clubs shouldn't hold you back.

Online game, absolutely. Unfortunately, the way online game is set up, it encourages women to screen based on superficial measures (height, looks, money, etc.) Online is the only place where these things do actually affect your results, which is ironic because online game is often considered the easiest way to get laid.

I think for online game, if you have other qualities, it would helps makeup for height...unless you're way below average height.

For example, if you have a 6 packs and shows you're hanging out with friends with it.

I have friends who are good looking gets laid at online game. They are average heights.