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(04-23-2011 01:54 AM)Mark Wrote:  That must be such a sad world to inhabit... maybe it's a Canadian thing. lol

Yeah I don't know what the deal is with all the canadian PUAs, seems over-represented considering the size of the country. I am around the same age as TD and am eternally thankful that, unlike him, I did not decide to google "how to pick up girls" when I was in college. It seems like the guys who got into it around that time at a young age have all been warped in one way or another. (TD, Papa, Jeffy, Sinn, Barry, Ciaran)

Mark: "I don't know Ryan, but he and I have some mutual friends. Ryan left RSD about a year ago and fucking hates them now and hates that period of his life. Other RSD coaches have quit and said the same thing... it's a big sham and a bubble and one big power trip, and it sucks your soul up. I mean, the dude has a desk job now making less money and from what I hear, he's much happier."

That's really interesting. Although we weren't ultimately happy with the bootcamp we actually thought the 'real Ryan' was a cool guy + I hope things are better for him now. Glad he's moved forward.

So to sum up:

RSD - bad
Venusian Arts - bad (Erik has good game, but advice is bad)
Mehow - bad (maybe he is good in teaching marketing these days, he retired from teaching pick-up)
Puatraining - bad (but some say AFC Adam is good)
Player Supreme - bad (some dude exposed him, seems that he faked everything)
Stylelife - bad
Lovesystems - most instructors are bad

Jullian Fox - don't know
Vin DiCarlo don't know, some say he gives shit advice

Nick Quick and Epik - legit
Nick Sparks and Christian Hudson - legit according to Mark, I think I've read some bad things about their marketing tho
Psych - seems to be good instructor
Fuji - most say he's one of the best instructors, few (read: puahate) say he sucks
Captain Jack - legit
Assanova - good advice, I heard that he retired too
Rob Judge and Zack - legit according to Mark, some say he's not so good

others please post your opinions, reviews, what you've heard about different coaches etc.

I think the first thing I ever read from the Community was Nick Quick's e-book on the 5 logistical questions you must ask. It was one of those "D'oh! That's why it's always so hit and miss when I pull!" moments! From there I started looking around at the various methods.

Saw a couple of gurus from 'PuaTraining' on the TV show 'Dragon's Den', trying to get financial backing from the business gurus. Both were completely uncharismatic and the pitch failed hilariously.
Seen AfcAdam a few times on TV; seems to have the gift of the gab. However, when I've read about him in newspaper articles he always seems to get numbers then say to the reporter 'I won't call...she's not hot enough for me!' PuaHate had a good thread about this a while back, if it still exists.

Watched a few episodes of VH1's 'The Pick-up Artist'...underwhelmed to say the least. The girls that Mystery pulled were pretty much into him from the start, and his rockstar / magician look suits his angular looks. I've shown his picture to rock chicks and they think he's cute.

Skimmed 'Rules of the Game'...garbage! Neil's a good writer but the conquests in the book were hardly the stuff of legend.

Real Assanova stuff was always practical and well-written. His honesty about how his looks and targeting the demographic that liked his style was the reason for much of his success, was excellent.

Mark Manson...hmm, who is this guy??!?

Like TSBmag & Rob Judge's writings.

Paul Janka's stuff pretty much confirmed my own experiences. Basically, it's a numbers game, don't say anything stupid, don't waste time chasing after difficult girls, and manage logistics. Reminded me pretty much of my college years!

'God is a woman' by Ian Coburn was okay. Some decent advice but the stories weren't that funny. Good in a Tucker Max sort of way; he's a likeable prick!

Barney Stinson from 'How I met your mother' is an excellent parody of pick-up artists; the writers have read some Community stuff and parody it. All the 'routines' and 'openers' you see in those Magic Bullets e-books are ridiculously over complicated or unnecessary...just like Barney's Playbook.