(04-13-2011 01:28 AM)Mark Wrote:  I've heard black and Latin guys kill it in the Scandanavian countries.

Likewise, blond hair blue eyed guys do well in Latin America.

Yeah that's true, just because they stand out... not because of some stereotyping based on their race or whatever.

(04-13-2011 01:28 AM)Mark Wrote:  I've heard black and Latin guys kill it in the Scandanavian countries.

true. But I also guess its because they're exotic.


On one hand you have a girls preference for the looks of a certain ethnicity.

On the other hand, you have typical qualities associated with a race.
Like, almost all asian (or indian) guys I know from university aren't successful with girls, but thats not because they're asian, but because they're somewhat nerdy and dorky. But that doesn't mean that asians have it harder per se (like some ppl believe).
Latin guys can be somewhat successful because they fit the latin lover/macho stereotype.

Yeah. In Holland, all sorts of stereotypes now exist about Moroccan guys (most of them not very good...). One stereotype about for example Moroccan guys is that they are more anti-social/bad boyish. This actually attracts girls to them. Although I *think* it's mostly low self-esteem and less intelligent girls.

I do think race matters to each individual girl. Some girls won't touch a black guy and go crazy for a latino guy. Another girl might have a big thing for black guys and be bored by white guys. Each girl has her own preferences. But this is one of the things that is outside of your control, and your overall success just depends on how good your game is.

I was thinking about this one today. I flipped it on its head. Do I have a preferance more for a certain race? Probably yeah as I love South American girls but there aren't many round my city. Actually very very few (I've stalked them all so I should know ).
However I wouldnt reject a cute girl regardless of her race and I reckon most girls would be the same about guys.
So maybe its not a big issue really....

(04-14-2011 07:02 AM)GeeCee Wrote:  I was thinking about this one today. I flipped it on its head. Do I have a preferance more for a certain race? Probably yeah as I love South American girls but there aren't many round my city. Actually very very few (I've stalked them all so I should know ).
However I wouldnt reject a cute girl regardless of her race and I reckon most girls would be the same about guys.
So maybe its not a big issue really....

Dude I prefer girls that are same race as me I just find them hotter for some reason then Black or Asian girls. I feel like a racist sometimes... damn.

I think it has something to do with who you are exposed to when you're very young. Attraction is something unconscious and automatic. Your wiring is probably formed at an early age about what you find attractive and what not. You're not racist.

Well that makes sense because 99,9% of people that I've met in my entire life are white... But what's weird is when some guys aren't attracted to girls of their own race

Maybe it can have to do with the traits they associate with the race, as was mentioned before I think. Many men assume Asian women will be more traditional and submissive, and latina women to be more sexual and sensual, for example.

I just recalled a chapter out of Nancy Friday's book My Secret Garden, which is about women's fantasies. Back in the seventies, some women fantasized about black men, because they thought that black men not only had big penises, but that they were also wilder and more animalistic in bed. Racist? Pretty much, yeah. But it worked for them I guess.

(04-13-2011 05:03 PM)KickBomber Wrote:  Well if I'm walking behind her I speed up to catch her, touch her lightly on the forearm, and say 'excuse me'. I'm usually to their side and slighly behind when I do this. This is how I was shown to do it by a guy up here. Most of the time this gets them to stop, and they listen to the opener. THEN they leave. Every now and then it does scare one, those usually had headphones in.

I can relate to you somewhat. I'm black and game around the Union Square area every now and then. My last girlfriend I met sitting in square and she was a Japanese girl. That day, I was out with this guy

http://justinwaynepua.com/

..who is pretty much the best in-field of any guy I've seen as far as the pickup community goes and that includes just about every ethnicity. The thing about his approach is that it's really subtle and even somewhat feminized and friendly. And that I think is what sets him apart from other guys I've met is that he sort of confuses the shit out of women who think on first glance that he's gonna be this ultra macho dark skinned black guy but he's not. His voice tone is slightly nerdy but he does dress cool. I agree with what Mark said about touching on the opener. But my friend touches afterwards, stuff like hi-5's and shit like that and it seems to work for him and get girls comfortable enough for him to insta-date them and even have them come to his house that same day. He does this thing during a conversational highpoint where he touches both of her arms with his hands, a subtle display of dominance but he's smiling when he does it.

You already probably automatically come across as dominant since you've got dreads. You probably wouldn't even need to do the touching he does since he's like this 5'8 guy who sort of has to demonstrate dominance instead of just looking dominant (having muscles, being tall, dreads, etc.) I'd start opening maybe when she's 5-10 feet away if she's coming towards you. The thing about day game for me is that it's a rhythm that I get in...not to be confused with being "in state" but just an overall ease of things once I get going and relax a bit.

My opinion on interracial approaches is that it does definitely play a factor in first impressions and stuff like that. It may help to throw whatever stereotype people have of your ethnicity upside down (i.e 5'6" Asian guys - more dominance, 6'1" black guys - less dominance). Or maybe that's more a height thing in general, I don't know.

So what if you are a brown guy and you are going to a place like Latin
America how much success will you have there, what stereotypes can you downplay to make yourself more attractive anywhere?