Day game has a lot of subtlies to it, but it's really just all about presenting yourself well on the opener and then being very casual.

I guarantee you that all three of you are screwing up at least one of the following:
- Startling her on the approach (includes being way too close, touching her, coming from behind)
- Being way too try-hard and not being casual
- Not well-dressed, stylish or not appearing friendly.

These are the only reasons 99% of guys I've seen are not successful with day game.

If you want more specifics than that, then buy coaching. Usually after an afternoon, I can get any guy getting phone numbers pretty consistently.

@Mark: I would have taken a coaching with you when you where in Germany in 2009, if I hadn´t had a broken hand back than. Still, your talk in Cologne was pretty awesome.

I know you´re in Europe right now (you wrote it somewhere on the forum). If you´d be stopping by in western Germany, I think we should go into price negotiations ^^

Oliv: shoot me an email. I'll be nearby in late May/Early June. It wouldn't be hard for me to come down for a few days.

Very interesting topic.

Everybody who struggles with street game has to find his own way. It has taken me a long way of practising to find mine.

I want to comment on a few things mentioned in the thread. This comes just from my personal experience in the field:

- Don’t go for the number. ALWAYS go for the instant date.
- Street game is not simple chit chat, it’s about connecting on a personal/emotional level.
- If you approach right, you should get less than 20 per cent boyfriend objections when going direct.
- Playful flirting and teasing is fine, as long as you don't overdo it (no negs, no cocky/funny). It often depends on the individual girl how flirty the vibe between her and me is. Some girls like it flirty, others prefer a serious way of getting to know each other. Just make it clear that you are genuine with your intention to get to know her.

I have tried that “do chit chat for 2 minutes, then take the number” thing. Didn’t work for me. Instead I had to find my own way (see my gameplan below).

(04-12-2011 05:21 PM)Ben Alexander Wrote:  Paul Janka says pretty much the same thing...keep it short, keep it casual, get the number and go. The longer you stay talking to her, the more chance you'll say something dumb, or the conversation will peter out and get awkward.

I strongly disagree. If you have that problem, work on your conversational skills. Many people say that girls have time constraints during the day and won't stay with you for a 10 minutes conversation etc... That's not true. If you make her invest into the interaction, you can become more and more interesting for her from minute to minute. The thing that works best for me personally (fieldtested many times, I'm not a KJ) is 10 minutes approach on the street, then I bounce her to the instant date.

Maybe my gameplan (from cold approach to instant date) could be helpful for those of you who have difficulties with street game. It’s a three steps approach (make her invest; connect on a personal level; connect on an emotional level), and it’s fieldtested many times. Check it out:

http://daygame.com/cafe/index.php/topic,466.0.html

Can someone help me with my biggest sticking point right know. Mark?

- Sometime I see a HB, if i decide to approach her, then i become Adrenalin. But sometimes not, although this girl is also awesome. Why is it so? Because lack of my sexual state, because i have no sexual attraction for her? how important are my sexual state?

Problem solved. It is because Approach Girls during daytime, is now part of my comfort zone.

My biggest daygame letdown moment was last fall. I was at the Airport in Halifax, NS, waiting for my flight and I was standing in line for the security check. There was a cute girl behind me so I casually leaned over my shoulder and said, 'Good thing this line's moving quickly, eh?' and she laughed and we started talking (blah blah blah). Then after a couple of minutes, I notice tears running down her face. In my head I'm like wtf?? So I ask her if she's okay. She's been txting away on her cellphone the past couple of minutes and she goes, '..My boyfriend just broke up with me' and then starts sobbing and excuses herself and runs off to the washroom. I was just stunned. Seriously? That could only have happened to me. Worst.Timing.Ever.

Hello Mark,

if you do nothing to create attraction after the opener. Then there must be something happen during the opening that create such lot of attraction OR there are something about you (looks, bodylanguage, voice, delivery).

I do not thing just because you approach her on the daytime create ENOUGH attraction to move forward. There mus be some thing addition.

What you think?

Freedome, I am not Mark but I know you overestimate the amount of attraction you have to create after you go direct. I would rather focus on getting you and her comfortable and not making it socialy awkward.

Going direct by itself creates all the attraction you need.

do you still have the adrenalin push if you see and if you are going for a girl direct?