Hey Guys,
I just thought about products that really aim at getting you results in the real world and that have actually directly helped you getting laid or getting results. Just list them and describe what you got out of them. So that you spend you´re money on the 5% of products that get you results and not on the other shit.
For me:
1.4-Elements of Game by Rob Judge and Zack Bauer
Brilliant book! Really! If I could only choose one product it would be that one. Just an immense amount of usefull, ready to apply info. I know it sounds like a sales pitch and I was extremly skeptical reading the advertisments because I don´t buy PU products anymore. But after reading that book I went out, emphasized the Element lacking in my "game" and got results. It was that simple.
2. Practical Pick Up Website
I know not a product per se. But if a friend of mine asks me for advice I point him here. So the he gets a general understanding of how things really are. Best website on the net related to PU. The 50% rule is the shit and I always have a sentence realted to that in the back of my head when interacting with women I just met: "You are SUPPOSED to fail half of the time! Open! Escalte! Get Sexual!"
Yeah basically those two things helped me the most. Before that I read Mystery Method and got very little out of it. The worst part was that I would beat myself up when a set didn´t hook and I thought that I had opened with the wrong body angle or shit like that and get all upset. Especially after reading Mark´s website it got clear to me that this is a numbers game and you simple can´t get every girl that you approach. A myth that was openly perpetuated by Mystery.
Saying all of that I realized very early that sitting down and reading shouldn´t be my focus. I never stopped going out and approaching and got over the hard part of AA very quick. I think that is a crucial step towards success. Exactly thats why I THINK that Mark´s G3 programm is so good because it focuses on the real world and going out and approaching.

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(04-10-2011 03:50 AM)Mark Wrote:  *cough* This. *cough*

This guy is shamelessly promoting his own products! Mods, ban this guy!

I think blogs are the best resources once you know the basics
The best blogs i read are from Entropy, Sinn and Captain Jack in that order

The best book i read recently is Complete Game Revision from 60 years of Challange
Its not the usual PU bullshit and has some great Mindsets

You can shamelessly promote anything if you are right.

(04-10-2011 05:09 AM)Lycan Wrote:  I think blogs are the best resources once you know the basics
The best blogs i read are from Entropy, Sinn and Captain Jack in that order

The best book i read recently is Complete Game Revision from 60 years of Challange
Its not the usual PU bullshit and has some great Mindsets

I never really got anything out of Sinn´s stuff. Just too structured and to "Mystery Methodesque".

Sinn still spits out some gold every now and then. He and I used to be really in line with each other and worked with each other back in 2008. But I think we've diverged a bit since.

(04-10-2011 09:03 AM)Matt Wrote:  

(04-10-2011 05:09 AM)Lycan Wrote:  I think blogs are the best resources once you know the basics
The best blogs i read are from Entropy, Sinn and Captain Jack in that order

The best book i read recently is Complete Game Revision from 60 years of Challange
Its not the usual PU bullshit and has some great Mindsets

I never really got anything out of Sinn´s stuff. Just too structured and to "Mystery Methodesque".

How old was the stuff you read?
Sinn used to work for Mysteries company but he has been independent for some years now
I dont think his stuff is similar to Mysteries anymore

Cajun seems like he has his marbles together. Granted, of course, that taking on three guys drunk is a bit vain but he seems like he knows his stuff.

I saw his videos on Body Language and he offers a somewhat logical perspective. He suggested things such as walking slowly as if underwater and more. But the best thing about his pitch is that he acknowledged that using everything was unnecessary. Take what you need and move on. Like he said, nobody wants to see 50 guys at a club walking like they're Jim Morrison.

(04-10-2011 09:17 AM)Lycan Wrote:  

(04-10-2011 09:03 AM)Matt Wrote:  

(04-10-2011 05:09 AM)Lycan Wrote:  I think blogs are the best resources once you know the basics
The best blogs i read are from Entropy, Sinn and Captain Jack in that order

The best book i read recently is Complete Game Revision from 60 years of Challange
Its not the usual PU bullshit and has some great Mindsets

I never really got anything out of Sinn´s stuff. Just too structured and to "Mystery Methodesque".

How old was the stuff you read?
Sinn used to work for Mysteries company but he has been independent for some years now
I dont think his stuff is similar to Mysteries anymore

No idea. I started getting into contact with PU in January of this year reading The Game (sigh). Was absolutely stunned and thought: "You´ve got to learn Mystery Method!" I think simultanously I read some stuff on Sinns blog. But all that material confused me and in every interaction I was massively in my head thinking: "Shit I have to qualify her!" that plus alot of times I simply fucked up "sets" where the girl was very interested because I said stupid stuff to "neg". GeeCee would say I was having a really good lead but I didn´t convert any. Well I then sat down and searched the net and luckily came accross this site and Rob Judge´s book. Maybe I read some old stuff from Sinn or something but how has his style changed?