I had 6 dates

(04-12-2011 06:27 AM)Freedomone Wrote:  I had 6 dates

Okay. Not a big success rate but still better than many. I think that in a case like yours, where you can approach but things are not going as well as you'd like, coaching is a good option. A good coach can quickly spot things where you go wrong, tell you how to do it differently, and even demonstrate right in front of you how he would do it.

Stick with it Freedomone. Its really tough when its not going well but keep a journal, write down things you should have done and re-read regularly. Dont necessarily expect the magic bullet to appear in a product or a forum.
I think Philip's idea of coaching is a sound one if your hitting a wall. Having never taken coaching I cant recommend but it makes sense.
Good Luck!!

Attraction will destroy your day game sets. Teasing/banter/negs/etc. doesn't work.

Normal conversation = "Oh, that's cool that you're in school studying X. In school I studied X, Y and Z."

Day game is all about how casual and genuine you are.

Paul Janka says pretty much the same thing...keep it short, keep it casual, get the number and go. The longer you stay talking to her, the more chance you'll say something dumb, or the conversation will peter out and get awkward.

Running 'attraction game' will come across as creepy or inappropriate; she's not a club girl who needs to be entertained. You MUST make it appear as if you just had to speak to her, but you're in a hurry to meet friends or get to work. Unless you really hit it off with her (instant date) don't hang around!

Day Game is one of those ironic things where the LESS time you spend with her, the better. That way you're 'that interesting guy who stopped me on his way to work' and not 'that creepy guy who wouldn't stop talking to me when I was out shopping!'

Ben nailed it.

Thanks, Mark!

I'm doubtful about not using attraction material. To me, all forms of playfulness are attraction material, and it would actually be non-genuine of me to avoid all playfulness. It's a beautiful girl, you're having positive emotions meeting her, or you wouldn't have stopped her. Let's put it this way: if she doesn't make *me* laugh, or show some signs of a sense of humor, I'll wonder if she's my type of girl. Why wouldn't a woman think the same way? It is obvious you wouldn't tell her that "your boyfriend isn't spanking you enough", but general playfulness, with possibily a bit of flirtiness? To me it would be weird if that sort of talk were missing.

Try it out. In my experience it just makes them uncomfortable.

The thing about day game is that you're not in a bar or club or place where it's deemed "normal" to approach. You approach a girl in a bar, she knows you're hitting on her, she knows what to expect. When you approach her at the supermarket, she has no idea what your deal is -- if you're crazy, if you're a serial killer, if you're going to rape her behind the dumpsters out back, if this is all a joke and there's a camera somewhere.

That's why your success rate is more or less going to be determined 90% by how casual and comfortable you make the interaction for her. And why in my experience any teasing or flirting just sabotages everything.

So all the magic happens at the date

Do you have a DateGame Model aswell? :>