Mark this could definetly be an extention to your article "the feminization of western culture".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...Bnvw#at=22

My opinion: yes woman have great qualities, but they are not godesses.

See for yourself and share your toughts.

When Daivid Deida goes horribly wrong...

There's always dumbasses in this world. Even tom cruise succumb to sciencetology. Instead of bringing up examples of these beta males, we should ignore them and bring up examples of alpha males.

The more you attention you give beta males, the more you'll end up emulating their qualities, even if you're criticizing them.

I couldn't make it past 15 seconds... I think by 25 my laptop would have spontaneously exploded.

(05-07-2011 06:20 PM)Brian Wrote:  There's always dumbasses in this world. Even tom cruise succumb to sciencetology. Instead of bringing up examples of these beta males, we should ignore them and bring up examples of alpha males.

The more you attention you give beta males, the more you'll end up emulating their qualities, even if you're criticizing them.

Well I just wanted to hear some people's toughts on this case, just like people were criticizing Tucker Maxx. We all have our differences off course.

So hopefully I won't be emulating their qualities, just because I'm criticizing them.

the deeper lying issue here: most male role models go from one extreme to the other: the wimp (see video) vs the childish boy (Tucker Maxx).

But whatever you do, don't emulate their qualities

Disagree Brian... learning what NOT to be is just as productive as learning what TO be. In fact, some people learn better from counter-example than example (and other's vice-versa). Seeing stuff like this on how NOT to be and seeing what's wrong with their logic or worldview is just as useful as seeing James Bond or whatever. It allows you to contrast.

(05-07-2011 06:20 PM)Brian Wrote:  There's always dumbasses in this world. Even tom cruise succumb to sciencetology. Instead of bringing up examples of these beta males, we should ignore them and bring up examples of alpha males.

The more you attention you give beta males, the more you'll end up emulating their qualities, even if you're criticizing them.

You do know that alpha, beta etc. are just roles in certain situations? Have a look at group dynamics (Raoul Schindler etc.).

Tom Cruise isn't "the alpha". He is just a guy, who acts. And who has very wacky beliefs (probably a result of conforming to his peer group in hollywood).

And the "Club Alpha" is rarely the leader and awesome guy in every other situation in his life, that he is made out to be in the "community".

http://www.practicalpickup.com/butcherin...alpha-male

It isn't about general role models, but rather about learning the right behavior in the right situations.

(05-07-2011 06:20 PM)Brian Wrote:  There's always dumbasses in this world. Even tom cruise succumb to sciencetology. Instead of bringing up examples of these beta males, we should ignore them and bring up examples of alpha males.

The more you attention you give beta males, the more you'll end up emulating their qualities, even if you're criticizing them.

One funny thing about this is that Gay Hendricks (yeah, I know, I know) could be viewed as highly alpha by certain standards. (I don't know as much about the other guy, Arjuna.)

Specifically, Hendricks is highly educated, written numerous books, been on Oprah and other popular radio / TV shows, and is presumably wealthier than 99.9+% of the population (because of all of the above). If he were so inclined, he could easily attract himself a lot of young, female, "spiritual" / New age groupies.

Yeah, this video makes me want to gag (I watched under a minute), but it's sure gotten these guys a lot of attention. Almost none of it has been positive, but you know what they say about publicity...

I guarantee you that if either one of them genuinely believe the shit they say in that video, neither one of them is going to come anywhere near a vagina any time soon.

(05-09-2011 07:57 AM)Mark Wrote:  I guarantee you that if either one of them genuinely believe the shit they say in that video, neither one of them is going to come anywhere near a vagina any time soon.

Well, both of them are married so they probably aren't out chasing tail...

but it would be sweet justice for inflicting this miserable abortion of a video on the world, if their wives said "You know, that video you made makes you look like a total pussy... I'm ashamed to be associated with you. I am seeing what Lexington Steele is up to tonight."