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Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
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cobrastyle Offline
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Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
Lots of stuff to name here, I'll start with this one:

-Value
I really hate the HB-scale and all this talk of how you have to demonstrate value or give value. Like there was some intrinsic human worth, and if your Survical and Replication value is too low, you better go kill yourself.
Thinking of people as above or below you is a surefire way to feel inadequate all the time.
Plus I don't think it helps your game if you meet a beautiful girl and you're thinking "OMG she's a HB10 she has so much more value than me I have to impress her so she'll think I'm worthy"
04-30-2011 06:17 AM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
Some more bullshit concepts:

- Natural Game: ALL naturals I know personally exactly know what they are doing, they even have structured game and canned material (without ever having heared of Pick Up or Mystery or "The Game"), and all these guys have "learned" being successful with women. Nothing works "naturally".

- Inner Game: Won't get you anywhere. The most successful guys I know are NOT super-confident and NOT super-Alpha.

- Boyfriend Destroyers: If you approach a girl and she mentions a boyfriend, she is simply not interested to get to know you.

- Negs or cocky/funny: Girls are not stupid. They know the real reason why you tell her these things. You will only come off try-hard. However, playful teasers or flirty teasers are fine.

- Number Closes: Vastly overestimated in its importance. A telephone number is worth nothing and the whole "numbers crunching"-thing is absurd. Instead, stay with the girl you are gaming and escalate!

- Peacocking: Sexual Stereotyping is WAY better.

- "5 for 5": Everyone who claims things like that is either a KJ or dishonest.

- Club game: The most unlikely place to pick up women.

- Magic tricks, palm reading and stuff like that: Completely useless when it comes to picking up girls.

By the way, I think "value" is a very useful and realistic concept.
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2011 10:39 AM by General G.)
04-30-2011 10:33 AM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
-Being in state will always get you unlimited pussies(RSD)

-Any non rsd are chodes - chode cant get laid(actually, it's the rsd members who cant get laid)

-Being presence will automatically gets you chick

-Claw the girls will get you chicks, even if you claw her right outside of her bathroom. There's a fucking idiot in my lair who's in his 40's and brags he always does that to girls. He loves the rsd(surprise surprise)

-Apocalypse opener - this works 100 percent of the time(claimed by cyrus or whatever the fuck his name was from rsdnation)

-BASICALLY ANYTHING COMES OUT OF TYLER DURDEN'S MOUTH OR PAPA'S MOUTH IS FULL OF SHIT!!!!
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04-30-2011 10:44 AM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
(04-30-2011 10:33 AM)General G Wrote:  Some more bullshit concepts:

- Inner Game: Won't get you anywhere. The most successful guys I know are NOT super-confident and NOT super-Alpha.

- Number Closes: Vastly overestimated in its importance. A telephone number is worth nothing and the whole "numbers crunching"-thing is absurd. Instead, stay with the girl you are gaming and escalate!

- Magic tricks, palm reading and stuff like that: Completely useless when it comes to picking up girls.

In my opinion, inner game is one of the MOST important things to learn.

A telephone number is not worth "nothing"

Palm reading actually still works for me, I don't do it that often anymore - but I get a pretty good response with it. Horse girl got me slapped before. It's all personal.



A lot of the rest of the stuff I more or less agree with
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04-30-2011 11:12 AM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
(04-30-2011 10:33 AM)General G Wrote:  - Peacocking: Sexual Stereotyping is WAY better.

What is "sexual stereotyping" ?? is it some kind of fashion strategy??

SF.
04-30-2011 11:54 AM
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Brett Offline
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
(04-30-2011 11:54 AM)Soul_Fire Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 10:33 AM)General G Wrote:  - Peacocking: Sexual Stereotyping is WAY better.

What is "sexual stereotyping" ?? is it some kind of fashion strategy??

SF.

Yea. Basically, the idea is to take a male sexual sterotype (rockstar, doctor, movie director, etc) that is somehow congruent to your personality, and dress as near to the perfect archetype of that stereotype as you can.
04-30-2011 12:29 PM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
Quote:- "5 for 5": Everyone who claims things like that is either a KJ or dishonest.

Or an attractive man that is also a pussy and lets women take most of the initiative. If you don't shoot you can't miss. But then you don't pick her up, she picks you up. But it would be pretty easy to rationalize that you're "5 for 5".
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2011 12:45 PM by Philip.)
04-30-2011 12:45 PM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
The 3 second rule. I think that just approaching a hot girl within three seconds in a nightclub is silly without reading the situation a little first.

There's NLP, patterns and all of that BS too
04-30-2011 02:55 PM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
Oneitis. Actually, in its original form as "thinking the girl your in love with from afar is the only woman for you fucking ever" it made sense. I can get behind that. Since then, its gradually morphed in the community into the mentality that "having any kind of an emotional connection with a woman is somehow detrimental to your manhood, and you should immediately dump that bitch the second you start to feel anything for her, and go bang ten more girls"....hmmmm.
04-30-2011 03:24 PM
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RE: Biggest bullshit concepts in Pickup
(04-30-2011 12:29 PM)Brett Wrote:  Yea. Basically, the idea is to take a male sexual sterotype (rockstar, doctor, movie director, etc) that is somehow congruent to your personality, and dress as near to the perfect archetype of that stereotype as you can.


How do you dress like a doctor? White coat?
04-30-2011 06:52 PM
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