lol you are right, but what do you think of that guy I posted about?

To Frozen Flame: If I could chose between being a 5ft9 guy with a beautiful face and a 6ft2 guy with an ugly face, I would chose the latter one. Just because I would get more beautiful women.

To Jcxky: One of my best friends is an - exceptionally tall - Asian guy with a HB9/10 Caucasian girlfriend. She could compete with Giselle Buendchen, Adriana Lima etc. (in terms of looks). When non-whites have disadvantages in picking up women, this is usually not the case due to "race" but due to height.

By the way: The guy you posted above is ugly by any standards. His girlfriend is a fame-digger or a gold-digger. However, there is nothing wrong about this, in my opinion.

Again, the average Swede is 6ft, the average Colombian is 5ft7. There might be some exceptionally tall Latinos who are successful in Scandinavia, but even a very good-looking Latin guy of average height would stand no chance there.

I am brown and I think I am exceptionally tall (in my opinion) for my race, I am 6.1 and I have been described when I was younger to be very good looking by my mom and various acquaintances; after only a few years I think I may have lost a little bit of those looks as I grew a little fat.

Oh and how can you tell? Did you just look at the picture and immediately pick up on the fact that she was a gold digger or did you assume that with the info I posted alongside the links?

(04-30-2011 09:14 AM)General G Wrote:  To Frozen Flame: If I could chose between being a 5ft9 guy with a beautiful face and a 6ft2 guy with an ugly face, I would chose the latter one. Just because I would get more beautiful women.

To Jcxky: One of my best friends is an - exceptionally tall - Asian guy with a HB9/10 Caucasian girlfriend. She could compete with Giselle Buendchen, Adriana Lima etc. (in terms of looks). When non-whites have disadvantages in picking up women, this is usually not the case due to "race" but due to height.

By the way: The guy you posted above is ugly by any standards. His girlfriend is a fame-digger or a gold-digger. However, there is nothing wrong about this, in my opinion.

Again, the average Swede is 6ft, the average Colombian is 5ft7. There might be some exceptionally tall Latinos who are successful in Scandinavia, but even a very good-looking Latin guy of average height would stand no chance there.

That guy is just average looking. He's definetly not ugly.

I'm going to have to agree with FrozenFlames here. In my High School it was also a 5f9 guy who was good looking and was extremelly popular with the girls. I'm in the same boat myself, I'm 5f9 and I regurarily get female attention based on my looks. I'm even had taller girls check me out.

Look at Johnny Depp, he's 5f9. I never heared any women complain about his height.

Besides not every girl is the same. Some care about your height, others about your face... etc.

But enough stereotyping, let's just get on with our lives.

But you would agree the girl the guy is with is probably a gold digger no?

(04-30-2011 09:54 AM)jcxky Wrote:  But you would agree the girl the guy is with is probably a gold digger no?

Well, maybe she is just a HB 9 with a fetish for ugly men

I repeat, there is nothing wrong with being (from the female perspective) or dating (from the male perspective) a gold digger. That's my personal opinion.

I'm not a KJ. I'm out there in the field, and I can tell you that you need MASSIVE value just to make such a women only talk to you. Sinn PUA is right when he says that most guys who join the "community" (i.e. buy overpriced dating products) will end up with a 5 or 6 at best, and not with such a girl.

That's really true for most community guys because most community guys look-wise is a 5-6. They join, expect some kind of magical line that gets them women way out of their league look-wise.

A smart pua improve all aspect of his life holistically, his looks, his social skills etc that by the time he finally settle down, it makes perfect sense for him to date super hot girls with amazing personality.

Guys comes in this with a loser mentality expecting people to think "omg, why would a super hot girl date a guy like that" instead of "of course these two are dating each other".

(04-30-2011 09:14 AM)General G Wrote:  To Frozen Flame: If I could chose between being a 5ft9 guy with a beautiful face and a 6ft2 guy with an ugly face, I would chose the latter one. Just because I would get more beautiful women.

What makes you think that would get you more beautiful women???
Trust me it doesn't matter that much at all...

It can even hurt you if you are tall because everyone notices you in the bar, and if you have bad social proof or something it works against you.

Just like a guy who is "peacocking" but then is standing alone in a club... he just looks like a total loser, but if he is surrounded by hot girls then it makes him even cooler.

I don't even see what's the point of this thread - you can't change your race and you can't grow taller, so how can this thread help you?

Actually, looks by far beats height.

I have a natural friend who's 5'0, but with a fairly attractive face and pretty decent social value, and he fucks way more girls than pua who are 6'4+. In fact..much more than MANY puas who are 6'4+.

Damn, i really wonder why so many men have napoleon short man complexes. It must had been the fact they watch too many porn with big black guys with 13+ inches dick..so they think because of their short statue, their dick size will never get that big LOL

(04-30-2011 07:44 PM)Brian Wrote:  Actually, looks by far beats height.

I have a natural friend who's 5'0, but with a fairly attractive face and pretty decent social value, and he fucks way more girls than pua who are 6'4+. In fact..much more than MANY puas who are 6'4+.

Damn, i really wonder why so many men have napoleon short man complexes. It must had been the fact they watch too many porn with big black guys with 13+ inches dick..so they think because of their short statue, their dick size will never get that big LOL

Agree