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Dancing FTW ! - Denis - 10-10-2011 11:35 AM
So, I started taking Salsa lessons. It's really an interesting analogy to "game" on multiple levels. (Like any (classical) dance is to a certain degree, but salsa and merengue is the only thing I know).
I think one can learn more about the really deeper practical mindset from salsa than from MM books for example. It may take you maybe 300 approaches to really learn the same things on the practical level. It doesn't learn the pickup-specific part, but trains the foundation for it. Dancing makes it much faster and more fun, with zero emotional "recoil".
If you look at this kind of dancing from a communication POV, many of the important practical elements are there:
Calibration: every dancing partner is different. They have all different dynamics. Some are fatter than others. Some have big boobs. Some are taller... They have slightly different dancing style. Some are all swingy by themselves, some you should shake up by yourself. Timings differ slightly. You have to learn to adapt to those differences or you won't dance well.
Leading... The teacher keeps hammering that "the man should lead". This is a very interesting part. You, as a man, should start all the figures. The woman must follow. BUT, you should do it right. You can't be aggressive, else you both can get out of balance or worse, some injury. But you can't be a wuss either, you MUST lead else theoretically there won't be no figures. Another key point of leading is giving signals, just for timing, for the way of moving or which figure you are going to start. You are learning how you signal/force movement. But again, you can't be too aggressive. You should be leading but paying attention to her dynamics and reactions. On the other side, if the woman tries to lead, you should put her on her place (the teacher hammers on this a lot, too ), again by using a little force, and again not too aggressive.
And I haven't explored all of this analogy yet. Could someone help?
All together, there is a fine balance between timing, calibration, leading, following, aggression and signalling. And this may be the most important balance you can learn both for salsa and for "gaming". Of course, you should also see the differences between the two and not taking it too literally. Like leading, it doesn't mean you should be the conversation dominator and turning down her actions. It just means you should not let someone play you.
Salsa (and other danceforms) are like game translated to body movement. Once you see the mappings of this analogy, this may be a fast and fun mindset training tool.
So what do you think?
RE: Dancing FTW ! - Sexual Twinkie - 10-11-2011 09:24 AM
Dancing is a great way to help you with sticking points in game.
Dance floor game in general actually. Alot of it has to do with non verbal communication and the really cool thing about dancing is that it is quick. It gets to the who process of kino and escalation much faster so you can experience each step.
Of course you do need to learn how to calibrate by practicing but with anything it it takes practice and ACTION.
RE: Dancing FTW ! - thunderbolt - 10-19-2011 07:52 AM
denis, i like your analogy! dance game is my game of choice. since talking here is practically minimal your communication with the girl is through body language and there's something seductive about communicating this way. just like you said, you lead the girl, pace her even, through the dance. when you escalate you use tact and compliance tests to see how she reacts and then you determine what you should do next.
what i really love about this kinda game is that you really don't have to say anything to the girl until you get her off the dance floor to build rapport. i've made out, groped, and grinded with girls without having had any real conversation!
RE: Dancing FTW ! - Denis - 10-19-2011 09:36 AM
That isn't what I really was talking about, but it's true too.
I was talking more about the analogy between "game" and dancing, not dance gaming.
RE: Dancing FTW ! - Sexual Twinkie - 10-19-2011 11:01 AM
Either way dance game will help you with game in general lol
So check this out http://www.dancefloorgamedomination.com someone actually broke down dance floor game