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RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - Jon - 05-07-2011 01:29 AM
@Davey
I actually think that early on (four months in for instance) there's value in having a very set game plan - if you follow a good one it instills good habits.
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - DaveyDrama - 05-07-2011 01:56 AM
(05-07-2011 01:29 AM)Jon Wrote: @Davey
I actually think that early on (four months in for instance) there's value in having a very set game plan - if you follow a good one it instills good habits.
Touche mes amis. Maybe it's just become 2nd nature to me now, although I'm not sure I ever put THAT much thought into it.
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - General G - 05-07-2011 06:57 PM
(05-07-2011 01:13 AM)DaveyDrama Wrote: Whatever happened to just having a conversation? Holy over-analyzing Batman.
Look, a conversation with a complete stranger can create arkward situations, especially during the first few minutes. Don’t forget that many women feel social pressure when they get approached during the day. Therefore it’s really good to possess some conversational tools and methods that make the interaction smooth and make the girl open up to you.
(05-07-2011 01:29 AM)Jon Wrote: I actually think that early on (four months in for instance) there's value in having a very set game plan - if you follow a good one it instills good habits.
This gameplan is the result of a four months intensive street game training, but all in all I had one-and-a-half years of Pick Up experience when I wrote it down. I think that gameplans can be useful on every stage of your development – you can still improvise in a certain situation, if you like.
(05-06-2011 11:01 PM)Mark Wrote: Also insta-date/approach is a poor metric, as insta-dates often have legitimate logistical barriers (she has to be somewhere, she's busy, she's meeting someone, etc.)
Managing the logistics well is an intrinsic part of “game”, too. And logistics are really crucial. You have to be prepared in order to know interesting dating places to go nearby. My mindset is: “Whatever her time schedule looks like, if she likes me, she’ll come with me.” Of course, this is not 100 per cent true, but some girls postpone appointments etc. to come with me.
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - Mark - 05-07-2011 08:15 PM
Quote:Managing the logistics in an unforeseeable/complicated situation is an intrinsic part of “game”, too. And logistics are really crucial. You have to be prepared in order to know interesting dating places to go nearby. My mindset is: “Whatever her time schedule looks like, if she really likes me, she’ll come with me.” Of course, this is not 100 per cent true, but some girls postpone appointments etc. to come with me.
Ugh... I'm getting exhausted just reading that. So much effort for such little added benefit. I'll just take the numbers. I'm a busy man.
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - General G - 05-07-2011 09:53 PM
(05-07-2011 08:15 PM)Mark Wrote: Ugh... I'm getting exhausted just reading that. So much effort for such little added benefit. I'll just take the numbers. I'm a busy man.
Of course, just taking the number means you invest less time if you are busy.
On the other hand, pushing the interaction to instant dates has some advantages I would not like to miss:
- You can combine two enjoyable things right now: flirting with women and visiting small art galleries or other places in that area you really like.
- You can do something that excites both the girl and you.
- You can connect much better when you share an activity, and you can show her aspects of your lifestyle (because the places you choose tell a lot about yourself).
- You can establish “leadership” when she follows you to a place, which is an attractive trait.
- And the most important thing: it’s fun. It’s about “living in the moment”. If you can enjoy something right now, why postpone it?
If you are busy, number closes are the preferable solution. Same goes for guys who simply have more success with the “approach->numberclose->day2”-method.
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - Mark - 05-07-2011 11:52 PM
My philosophy is just that if a girl likes me enough to insta-date me, then she likes me enough to not flake. So why waste the extra 20 minutes?
Re: structured gameplan comments -- some people learn much better with structure, other guys don't. It sounds like creating a structure to master really benefited G. So it's something others can try on, but if it doesn't fit for you, then no problem. Do it your own way.
The only risk you run with building structures is sometimes get confused and mistake the structure for the game itself, when they're two completely different things.
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - shadow - 05-08-2011 02:21 PM
Thanks for the gameplan, General. I usually do daygame as part of my routine, so I prefer the number approach. But I'll keep this in mind, if I have some extra time. Really cool post!
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - General G - 05-08-2011 08:46 PM
(05-07-2011 11:52 PM)Mark Wrote: Re: structured gameplan comments -- some people learn much better with structure, other guys don't. It sounds like creating a structure to master really benefited G. So it's something others can try on, but if it doesn't fit for you, then no problem. Do it your own way.
True. Don’t be dogmatic, just do what works best for you.
(05-08-2011 02:21 PM)shadow Wrote: Thanks for the gameplan, General. I usually do daygame as part of my routine, so I prefer the number approach. But I'll keep this in mind, if I have some extra time. Really cool post!
Thanks, mate!
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - Freedomone - 05-11-2011 05:08 AM
General,
bekommst du auch machmal wenn du darüber nachdenkst eine scharfe frau direkt zu machen, einen Adrenalin stoss? Was ist wenn das nicht passiert, wie kann ich es wieder aktivieren?
RE: Direct Streetgame from Cold Approach to Instant Date – How to do it - General G - 05-11-2011 06:20 AM
(05-11-2011 05:08 AM)Freedomone Wrote: General,
bekommst du auch machmal wenn du darüber nachdenkst eine scharfe frau direkt zu machen, einen Adrenalin stoss? Was ist wenn das nicht passiert, wie kann ich es wieder aktivieren?
Yes, approaching attractive women gives me a kind of "kick". It's an adrenalin rush. I love and hate this feeling at the same time. I'm addicted to it.
I've read in the other thread that you loose all of the AA after the 3rd approach or so. So I guess after that you feel a kind of indifference towards the girl's beauty, her reaction etc.
What to do concretely? Set concrete goals every day you go out for daygame. For me this was about internalizing the "I want to have a date today"-mentality. Many guys in the community preach outcome independency. What I did was the very opposite.
Motivate yourself. "I want to get a date today". Set this as your goal. If you need to approach 15 women for this, do it. If you get rejected 15 times in a row, you will be even more motivated for the next day. Get the Olli Kahn mentality. I WANT the date. I really WANT the date, whatever it takes! That's a good motivation.