Hey boys.
Been following the community for a few years now. Just started running day game at the local campus of my alma mater. I've been recording my approaches on my iPhone as a learning aid, both for me and the fellas on this forum.
Interested in feedback on my game.
Aug 31, 2011
http://tindeck.com/listen/ubnu
Brunette 5. Foreign exchange student. Warm up set. She'd just arrived in the country, didn't have a phone yet. Facebook closed.
Sep 15, 2011
http://tindeck.com/listen/twgz
Blonde 7. She had a very confident, assertive frame. Got busted on the recording. Email closed.
Sep 20, 2011
http://tindeck.com/listen/xhop
Dyed hair with red streaks, 8.5. Used the same material. Number closed. Texted her later. Turns out she's 15. WTF was she doing on a college campus?!
Sep 14, 2011
http://tindeck.com/listen/gujm
Brunette 8. Same material. She was only in town for one night. Number closed.
I'm not going to critique your sets because I don't believe in that jazz, but I have to comment here just to say how much I love your name. Seriously.
Mark and others, i'd be interested in critiques/feedback on my approaches.
kind of hard to hear everything, even with my headphones in. You think you could type an outline of the convo. Let me know if you were walking beside her, approached sitting down, etc. You sounded pretty normal though from listening. which is good. Also, I heard some laughs which is also a good thing. But, I didn't hear any plans for meeting up later. I don't even bother getting phone numbers without the girl knowing I'd like to meet up sometime. I mention where i live and play up a ice cream shop right next to it.
Update: ok I listened to more of your recordings. When you talked to the blonde, you used every mystery method attraction technique under the sun. I'm not going to hate, because I believe you can use whatever technique you want, as long as you're CALIBRATED doing it. You switched topics pretty naturally, which is good. I'd tone down the palm readings/techniques and shit like that during the day though. The goal in day game is to be normal and interesting. Try going direct on a girl, even if it's after u ask directions. Example: "You're cute, what's your name."
Appreciate the feedback Playermaker.
(09-27-2011 08:22 AM)Playmaker001 Wrote: [ -> ]I'd tone down the palm readings/techniques and shit like that during the day though. The goal in day game is to be normal and interesting.
The finger reading routine is to demonstrate value and establish a romantic connection through touch. Sure I can talk about about the moon, the stars and school but that's nothing more than friendly platonic small talk and would put me firmly in the friendzone. I want to establish ROMANTIC INTENT. There needs to be some alpha cockiness, some push-pull, some teasing to have her consider me a sexual prospect.
(09-27-2011 08:22 AM)Playmaker001 Wrote: [ -> ]Try going direct on a girl, even if it's after u ask directions. Example: "You're cute, what's your name."
"Hey you're cute so I needed to come over and say hi" doesn't work unless you're very goodlooking. Girls here get creeped out by overt romantic advances - blame it on societal conditioning - so it needs to be extremely subtle and smooth. The best pickups never sound like pickups.
(09-27-2011 08:22 AM)Playmaker001 Wrote: [ -> ]Update: ok I listened to more of your recordings. When you talked to the blonde, you used every mystery method attraction technique under the sun. I'm not going to hate, because I believe you can use whatever technique you want, as long as you're CALIBRATED doing it. You switched topics pretty naturally, which is good.
Yes, my audio log attests that indirect approaches with Mystery Method works. I've gone 4 for 4 in closing sets while spitting the same scripted routine stack! Word for word!
Thanks Mystery!
Indirect day game is fine for a college campus, although you can still do both. If the MM-style stuff works for you then great, keep doing it. I don't prefer MM-style techniques and the reasons why are pretty well documented at this point. Just keep in mind that they're training wheels, and the idea is to one day not need them.
But assuming these girls are meeting up with you and you're banging them, then go for it. More power to you. Congrats.
Mystery Method works great in the short term, but in the long term, it's better to believe in your own confidence and attractiveness than it is to believe in canned routines. Just my two cents.
Alright, I'm taking a lot of flack here for using canned routines but... MYSTERY METHOD WORKS.
I've used the same canned script on all these girls. I've rehearsed and delivered it enough times that to the unsuspecting target it comes off completely natural, with smooth transitions. I can get her attracted, laughing and feeling comfortable enough to invest in the interaction. I'm batting close to 100% in closing digits when I can get all the way through my routine stack. If she's not hooking and I'm not feeling a connection, I quickly bounce. I don't waste time.
When I get her out I'll charm her with my natural wit and personality, physically escalate and bang. But when running day game I have a small window of time to make my pitch, with little margin for error. Forget instant dates - I have places to go, she has places to go. I need to make enough of a favourable enough impression, and run just the right amount Attraction + Comfort material for those 5 minutes to get the girl thinking of me as a cool intriguing guy, and responsive when I follow-up.
I'm still a rookie when it comes to day game. With a few hundred cold approaches down I'll wing it and won't need routines a crutch. For now I'll stick with this as it's getting me an assload of numbers.