(06-30-2011 05:58 AM)crazyhorse Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.gnolls.org/
This is a great website from a former vegan, who now eat paleo.
Honestly when it comes to nutrition: try it out and see if it works for you. Because it's a minefield and no one agrees 100% on anything.
Trying is nice, but often you don't feel the negative results of wrong choices until later (osteoporosis and other problems resulting from deficencies take their time).
The people who are actually deep into this stuff agree on 99,99999 %. It's a field full of self-proclaimed "experts" and nut jobs with marketing tricks that make it look so divided and uncertain.
Quote:dairy for calcium? http://www.google.be/search?um=1&hl=nl&b...en&q=rapen This vegetable contains twice as much calcium then milk (with equal weight)
And the list goes on.....
It's not that much about Calcium content, as about the higher bioavailability. But yeah, there are other sources. And supplements of course. Take some vit. D3 too and you're all set.
(06-30-2011 03:30 PM)Happy Wrote: [ -> ][quote='crazyhorse' pid='4183' dateline='1309377513']
Trying is nice, but often you don't feel the negative results of wrong choices until later (osteoporosis and other problems resulting from deficencies take their time).
Do a blood test or take multivatimins.
(07-01-2011 01:36 AM)crazyhorse Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2011 03:30 PM)Happy Wrote: [ -> ][quote='crazyhorse' pid='4183' dateline='1309377513']
Trying is nice, but often you don't feel the negative results of wrong choices until later (osteoporosis and other problems resulting from deficencies take their time).
Do a blood test or take multivatimins.
Yes, those are good ideas, if people would do that.
But you overestimate the capabilities of large parts of the medical system (at least in germany most don't even know the difference between a 1,25 and 25 Vit D test) and the ability of supplements to provide missing ingredients.
Just wanted to point out that you can "feel" great, but you can still set yourself up for problems down the road.
(07-01-2011 02:40 AM)Happy Wrote: [ -> ] (07-01-2011 01:36 AM)crazyhorse Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2011 03:30 PM)Happy Wrote: [ -> ][quote='crazyhorse' pid='4183' dateline='1309377513']
Trying is nice, but often you don't feel the negative results of wrong choices until later (osteoporosis and other problems resulting from deficencies take their time).
Do a blood test or take multivatimins.
Yes, those are good ideas, if people would do that.
But you overestimate the capabilities of large parts of the medical system (at least in germany most don't even know the difference between a 1,25 and 25 Vit D test) and the ability of supplements to provide missing ingredients.
Just wanted to point out that you can "feel" great, but you can still set yourself up for problems down the road.
I'd like to hear your opinion on what is the best way to lose fat while still eating a very healthy diet, since I take it that you're implying that you're part of that group of people who agree on 99% of diet stuff.
(07-06-2011 06:39 AM)lapuma Wrote: [ -> ] (07-01-2011 02:40 AM)Happy Wrote: [ -> ] (07-01-2011 01:36 AM)crazyhorse Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2011 03:30 PM)Happy Wrote: [ -> ][quote='crazyhorse' pid='4183' dateline='1309377513']
Trying is nice, but often you don't feel the negative results of wrong choices until later (osteoporosis and other problems resulting from deficencies take their time).
Do a blood test or take multivatimins.
Yes, those are good ideas, if people would do that.
But you overestimate the capabilities of large parts of the medical system (at least in germany most don't even know the difference between a 1,25 and 25 Vit D test) and the ability of supplements to provide missing ingredients.
Just wanted to point out that you can "feel" great, but you can still set yourself up for problems down the road.
I'd like to hear your opinion on what is the best way to lose fat while still eating a very healthy diet, since I take it that you're implying that you're part of that group of people who agree on 99% of diet stuff.
Unprocessed foods, veggies, fruit, enough protein from different sources, smart weight (or other resistance) training and most important: kcal deficit. (now that doesn't mean you need to count / track kcal & macros, but it is highly recommended. It increases your control over the process massively and thus avoids unnecessary mistake.)
Supplements such as fish oil /omega 3, vitamin d levels at 50 ng/ml, calcium if dairy isn't consumed, maybe zinc, magnesium and iron supplements depending on gender, weight and overall diet.
Creatin monohydrate for possible cognitive & performance benefits.
Hard to be more specific without more context.
(07-06-2011 09:25 AM)Jon Wrote: [ -> ]Happy, there's absolutely not a consensus by 99% of serious people about this.
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-...1400040787
Oh god, please no.
Taubes is a sensationalist journalist who took a LOT of research out of context, so that he can get his sensationalist message "it's all the carbs & insulin" across. It's more complicated than that. Some of the book is interesting for the preliminary research on insulin and aging, but the rest is very misleading and thus potentially harmful.
It's endlessly repeated (esp. in paleo circles) and therefore accepted as truth (Repetition bias), but nobody bothers to look at the actual evidence.
This such an endlessly rehashed topic I'll let other speak.
http://weightology.net/?p=265
http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/search/la...ct%20Check
Gary is very attached to his "research" for obvious reasons (emotional, fame, financial). He can't switch gears and correct himself even when faced with massive contrary evidence.
I don't count him in the 99 %.
Yeah, I know those talks.
It sensationalism and the conclusions are simply misleading again.
Read this in regards to Lustig:
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29...-alarmism/
Follow up:
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/02/19...sm-debate/
Pretty sad, that so many people are mislead by people who rather care about the money & fame, than the truth and (mental) health of the people they advice.
Low carb "works", because excluding an entire high kcal, low satiety food group in possibly insulin resistant folks and replacing it with more protein leads to a lowered intake (mainly adherence) and thus weight loss. There are downsides to it as well (possible nutrient deficencies (cramping), cognitive/physical performance loss etc).
Direct long term trial:
http://www.annals.org/content/153/3/147.abstract
It isn't that simple and what diet approach you use shouldn't be dictated by fear of an entire food group , but should be oriented around your personality, status quo and lifestyle.
That said (again), there is little disagreement over the actual steps to take to lose weight amongst actual experts on the topic.
Low carb gurus just don't belong in there. Simply too attached to their idea to be objective and care for how the world really works. Confirmation bias.
If you don't want to get on the science based, "do what works" "bandwagon" that's of course fine by me. You seem like a very smart guy, but even those can be mislead. Hope this just helps some people to look at the whole health & fitness thing a bit more objectively and ask "why?" a lot more.